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Fine. But you didn't quote 1 kings 6. You were quoting chapter 8. So please don't bold "wrong" as if I am at fault. I am not about to scour the Bible finding the verse you mean. Regardless, my stance is firm. Just because God said to do it there doesn't give you the right to do it here...

If it weren't for grace. Yes. The law is impossible my friend! It's God's nature! By the flesh, we can't do it.

Well... Unless I can pin them down with undeniable evidence, I am taking their word abouft how they worship. It may be contrary to what I see. But its not supposed to be what I see. Do they prejudge about others' intentions? Sure they do! Not my biz....i ain't going to do it to them and I...

You will not find sola scriptura amongst my belief. But what you will find is a belief that if something is against scripture, I reject it. The problem is so many build a doctrine and a tradition without consulting the whole Bible. You can pull a verse fron the Bible and build a doctrine...

Wekk this might be where we are having a problem. Guys like Kelpha and Bread of Life are saying they aren't objects of worship and you seem to be saying they are. It's a tough situation because if we see someone praying in front of a statue.... Well... What is the explanation? Wel then we...

Welcom back Aspen! My, its been awhile!

Bygrace brought up a point that I like... What difference does it really make in regards to salvation? Well, if it is a matter of truth, then all the difference. There is not 100% evidence to be sure either way. But there are many questions. Let me just ask one: who was the serpent's seed...

But do you extend it to all things? Not just religious figures? And do you believe grace covers having them?

I didn't see anywhere in 1 kings 8:10-22 where God approved of statues in the temple. Perhaps I missed it after a long day's work. I do see the ark mentioned and yes... They had Cherubims. Is that what you are referring to? Well, I've already addressed this and didn't get much of a reply...

To those who believe that Cain was the literal son of the serpent and of Satan: I support you! Genesis chapters 1 through 3 are very important. Every word in them (as in the rest of the Bible) is important. There is no apple in that account. Noe is the story literal.

I like you Job. .... Just can't suoport you on this one. They say they aren't praying to a statue... I take their word for it. It just seems foolish to tell someone what they believe and do when they say they don't. Even if you are right you aren't going to win that arguement.

Alright fine. God still said don't make them at all. He didn't say don't make them for worship but otherwise its ok.

Pray. Read first.

That verse is talking about astrology, not about the plastic Mary statue on the dashboard of a car. No, I don't see it.

Oh really? Were they worshipping statues of Jesus in 55 AD? Was this statue a creature inatead of the creator? Continued disobedience. Ok... Lets dive into that. Are you going to circle those few verses in Romans 1 and ignore the rest of the letter? What about Romans 5 which say where...

But this not what they are saying. They aren't asking a statue of Mary to pray for them, they are asking Mary to. Sure, I think that's fruitless... But still its not what they are saying.

Seems to me he said the exact oppsite, Job. I mean, I think its silly.... But he said he wasn't praying to the object.

I didn't. Just give due honor and protect yourself from error. That's a general rule on why we should all cite references. But I do have some thoughts: Personally I don't have any statues, pictures or even crosses of anything of the Christian faith. If you have say a statue or Mary or a...

Please always cite the works of others, Kelpha. You haven't broken any copywrite laws, but this work is not your own. Do Catholics Worship Statues? | Catholic Answers

And I can't find in DPMartin's post where he said it was in the Constitution. US history tells that the phrase "separation of church and state" was coibed by T Jefferson in a private letter. He of course, didn't have a direct hand in writing the constitution. But his philosophy was taken into...