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  1. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Folks, I am going to do my very best to live up to what I am about to say. I am bowing out of this conversation. Catholics use Mat 16 to try to state a legitimate their claim as the only true Church. If not that, they will state they are at least thw mother church or the "head". The...
  2. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Kepha31, Smile. Here's a nice pat on your head. That's all you get.
  3. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    This may be Wednesday Bingo night for Catholics... But I ain't playing your games. This is what I said: "As for those historical folks. Let me put it this way. All of them were born at least a half century after the time of Peter and Paul. And if they contradict what the Bible says... Yes...
  4. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Basically you just replied to a bunch of things I never said. Wanna try again?
  5. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    First off... If you are offended its because you don't have great peace and you don't love hid law. I quoted you that verse. Next, you fail to understand context. Your little fit about my use of initials for what you believe to be profanity is the distraction -- not any historical writings...
  6. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Psalm 119:165 KJV Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them. Are you really offended? Matthew 15:17 KJV Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? What do you think Jesus was sayi g...
  7. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Acts 23:10-11 KJV And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle. [11] And the night following the Lord stood by...
  8. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Something pretty close to Barbara Streisand. But not quite. Seriously Tom.... I don't believe you are that ignorant.
  9. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Acts 23:10-11 KJV And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle. [11] And the night following the Lord stood by...
  10. FHII

    Somebody Lied

    Amen! I got a feeling that 99% of our problems don't require prayer. They require reading! God has more important things to say to us than we do to him.
  11. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    More BS from VatiSPIN City. Jesus did not say Peter was the rock on whom he built his Church. Again, Peter is not an "it" nor is he a "this". It was the revelation hr brought which is what Christ built his Church on. Furthermore.... Peter was not a preacher or apostle in charge of Rome. That...
  12. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Ephesians 2:20 KJV And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone ; I have been thinking of this verse in light of this 1700 year debate. If you check for context you will see Paul is speaking about what Christ's church was...
  13. FHII

    AN OVERVIEW OF THE BIBLE:

    There absolutely has to be a comprehension of the structure of the Bible. Everyone understands the importance of context, yet many throw it out the window when defendi g or developing their doctrines. I like what you said about the Bible being written for us but not everything is to us. As...
  14. FHII

    Somebody Lied

    I abolutely agree that Christ sent his spirit, that it testifies and leads us into understanding. Understanding of what? The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth. Therefore he's going to lead you into the truth and a deeper understanding of it. If the Bible isn't the truth about Jesu than i...
  15. FHII

    Things that are never mentioned in religious churches

    It is true that Peter was sent to Cornelius (a gentile) before Paul's time had fully come. But here are some other pertinent scriptures: Galatians 2:7 KJV But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto...
  16. FHII

    Things that are never mentioned in religious churches

    The larger question is about the rest of the law. You won't get too many folks to argue that we don't have to be circumsized. You get a few that demand we keep the sabbath. Not many, but a few. But there is a while slew of religious folks who demand we keep the rest of the law OR they pick...
  17. FHII

    Was Peter thr Rock that the Church was built upon?

    Yea Kepha... But it really wasn't an unbroken lineage, was it? I can go to the Catholic Encyclopedia and see that. I won't debate whether Peter laid hands on Linus. It is possible he did, though improbable as Linus was Paul's student... Not Peter's. I have no doubt that Peter appeared in...
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    Somebody Lied

    Ok. So you are comparing the Bible to a teddy bear and a blanky. Nice. I compare it to a personal letter he wrote to me. It tells me who he is and details what he wants me to do. If my wife wrote me a letter I would cherish that letter and count it as her word. It would be a part of her...
  19. FHII

    Somebody Lied

    Mjrhealth I am not going to discuss this further with you. I have explained to you the verse where Jesus said "in them you think you have salvation". The key is that the scripture testified of him. It was an endorsement of the scripture. Not that it was intrue, but that it was true. I...
  20. FHII

    The Fear Of God

    Ok... So is this a grace vs works conversation? Cause it sure sounds like the beginning of one. I don't bother one way or the other with works of the flesh. I don't try to do them or not do them. I do measure whether they are expedient, whether they edify God or not, and monitor whether I...