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And as I have said before. You are never going to get the straight story from people who have an ax to grind.... with ANY group.

No need for all that childish nonsense, CoreIssue. She see things differently, but that gives no one license to come off with that stuff you are posting.

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Remember, "threshing" doesn't PRODUCE wheat. It just gets rid of what is not wheat.

To see if Peter would "willingly" let go of the chaf… or cling to it in his life, perhaps?

Well, our "threshing" and what they did back then (and still do in some countries today) are quite a bit different. An interesting side note is that the oriental num-chuk weapon is derived from the sticks they used to thresh wheat.

I have a collection of about three dozen articles from FairMormon, SLC Messenger, Ensign, and several other LDS publications that tell quite a different story. Personally, I don't care, I happen to like you, but I would hate to think you are saying we all believe the same when other LDS...

Basically, yes. But, it is a lot more involved, and kind of barbaric and crude. First, the whole stalks of the plant (containing hard stalks, long leaves, and pods with the wheat kernels [germs] inside, were all thrown on very hard-packed ground in a special area about the size of a basketball...

Do you know how wheat is "sifted"?

So then God existed before both Jesus and Satan? Then God produced both of them in a spiritual, copulation-type, union that begat them both, along with the rest of "angels" and us, mankind, also?

To LDS people, are not Jesus and Satan, in effect, brothers, equal sons of God, who could have either taken on the task of being born to Mary as our Savior?

The only thing in all that which pertains to the Bible is Angels being called stars.... and Revelation 6 is not talking about angels falling to the Earth. So, with these supposed "examples", your post is even weaker.

Very weak.

Then, per your view, the words of Revelation 6 would be a total impossibility. Or are you agreeing "those" particular stars aren't literal stars?

"No", that actually came from a pro reformation source... but, an objective one. It seems Luther, a fairly unknown small-time monk, was a relatively minor irritant to the Church at first, before the political powers began to get behind him..... thinking, the movement to be to their advantage.

Does anyone here realize that the name, "Protestant" (Latin: 'protestantes') was not really originally given to Luther, but rather to a group led by a half dozen German princes who thought his movement in opposition to the powerful corrupted control of The Church was a politically advantageous idea?

A thought. Can you do like Jesus did, and INSTEAD of praying for vengeance against all these people who made a victim of you..... pray for their forgiveness... that they be changed.... and that they remain preachers and lawyers and school principals, but ELEVATED in their positions as Godly...

I already said where this link connected you to... There's no point in trying to make any sense of any of it.

How are "stars" in Revelation literal, when if a "literal" star smashed into earth, EVERYTHING would be gone, and no one would left to be running into caves for shelter? Don't some people even bother to think before they claim something?

I hate doing ice too, but every doctor I have ever spoken with prescribes it as the very first thing to do.