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Well, where is God's Heaven? Past Jupiter, Pluto, or maybe in another galaxy? No, it's right here, in another dimension. I explained what the LoF is. God Himself is an eternal all consuming fire. Therefore, when Jesus does return from Heaven, He will be "in flaming fire, taking vengeance on all...

I suppose it does according to our thoughts and our ways. Isaiah 55:8-9. But, according to God, there is no day or night in eternity. Rev.22[5] And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever...

Actually no. No person, who has died without Christ, can have any form of eternal existence. The first death for them is final. They will have perished without God's Grace for forgiveness of sins. However, the second death is for Christians who have understood God's saving grace through the...

Read the verse again. You will find that there are two different thoughts. Rev. 14[11] A. And the smoke OF their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: B. and [while they still have breath] they have no rest day nor night*, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark...

It's not their torment that is eternal, but rather the smoke of their torment, that is eternal. Hence my posting of the eternal nature of carbon atoms in the infinity of space.

I agree! Hell, aka the pit/grave is not eternal. It too will be burned up in the LoF, in the day when Jesus returns in all His Glory from Heaven.

And suppose you still believe that all men, wicked and saved, have an eternal soul. (As you had said: "That says you will die not cease to exist."). Sorry, I adhere to John.16[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself...

God speaks in the past, present and the future all at the same time. Isaiah 55:8-9. While they are alive, all who take the MoB will be sealed into their fate, never having the opportunity to receive God's forgiveness. All of such, shall be in the lake of fire upon Jesus' Glorious return. Smoke...

Are you saying that the words of our Lord Jesus Christ are a man made theory? Specifically, John.3[18] He that believeth on him is NOT condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Romans 8:9

Yes!! Isaiah 55:8-9 [8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. [9] For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Let's not forget that Jesus spoke it as a parable, a semi-fictious story, in order to deliver a single truth. Do you know what that single truth is?

Just exactly as it says: day time or night time, 24/7 as long as they are physically alive. All of such do not have eternal existence of any kind.

> I won't repost the scriptures here, but smoke is carbon atoms, and therefore can and do exist in space, beyond our atmosphere. "In space, there is no air, then how is smoke coming out from the rocket? When the fuel is used it creates smoke. This smoke is not needed in the rocket so it is...

It's actually very simple. Through faith in Jesus, and by the power of His resurrection, WE HAVE overcome death, and HAVE been GIVEN the Gift of eternal life. 1 John 5:12. John.11[26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

I wasn't inferring anything, I was just going to "the big picture" of God's plan for our salvation. To keep it simple, the entirety of it all, ever since Adam lost the hope for eternal life, bringing eternal death upon all of us, God has been working and suffering over us, hoping that every...

Actually, Christ's blood was required by God the Father to be shed for the Father's sake as well as ours. Heb.9[22] And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. Without it, God the Father could not permanently dwell within us, and of...

So then, through your faith in Jesus as your Savior, you still view yourself as being under God's condemnation.

Ziggy quoted: Jer 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man. Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. > In light of your...

Agreed! John.17[4] I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. However, what most don't reference or understand is what exactly were the works of God that He gave Jesus to do and "finish", while in the mortality and likeness of our flesh? The six...

By your own words, you have misunderstood my simple analogy, and have purposely misconstrued it for your own way of thinking. You have not yet perceived that the ultimate goal of God the Father and God the Son, is TO SAVE as many as possible of the human race, from the judgment of eternal death...