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    For you it is given! Matt.13[11] He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
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    I gave the principals of HOW one can know that the 70th week is not missing. Only the Lord understands His own "thoughts and ways" better than we do, or any biblical scholar! When you can abide in His instruction of Proverbs 3:5, He will deliver His promise in John 16:13
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    There are only THREE understandings about the "sanctuary" (temple) that was in Jerusalem: 1. It was re-built, but then destroyed 70AD 2. It is being built right NOW. 3. It will never be re-built again. Which temple am I talking about, and in which Jerusalem?
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    Davy, here is your clue, and it's all you need to understand that the 70th week IS NOT MISSING. Daniel 9[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two...
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    Hi Davy, you are closer to the truth of how the majority of "church-ianity" promotes their view, which of course always includes the Jewish concept of Christ conducting a Millennial Reign of the saved OVER the unsaved, MoB people, who CAN'T be saved EVER, for two reasons. 1. They ALL had the...
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    It's a vision WITH God's words given to Daniel. God chose to say that he "determined" the 70 weeks of time His way. Daniel's choice of words were not allowed. I for one also, do not intend to change the literal heard/seen words of God. I am sure Daniel didn't either. But for interpretation, it's...
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    ^ John 4[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Since only Jesus is The Truth, we should let/allow Him to guide us, and NOT "church-ianity". John 16[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall...
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    I am not here to doubt your methodology of study or your faith, but rather to understand your meaning for the futurist view that you are presenting. I on the other hand, hold to the historicist view, which is my counting backwards to the past, from the Crucifixion of Jesus. I mentioned the...
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    Of all examples to choose, you hit the nail on the head of what we are talking about! But for your sake at the moment, I don't think that you really want to open that can of worms, of the 2300 and the 1290/1335 days, because if you did, then we would have to talk about 1. Antiochus Epiphanes and...
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    "3rd time" ?? Yes, on your 3rd time, you finally did say what you mean. Thank you. For a minute there, I thought that I might have to get bigger pliers to "pull teeth". Ok, moving forward....you are saying that when the Muslim armies surround Jerusalem, the building of the street, the wall...
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    Ok, I get your understanding now! Only the street and the wall shall be built, as shown in Daniel 9[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks...
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    As for those who were of faith under the Old Covenant, you are correct. Therefore, for the sake of others here, all should know that no one under the Old Covenant could receive God's Gift of the the Holy Spirit permanently, until after the shedding of Christ's blood. However, in light of what...
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    Ok, I do hear all of your reasoning of when you believe that the Jewish temple will be rebuilt sometime in the future, but you then say: "(Messiah is cutoff)". I want to know HOW "Messiah" shall be cutoff at that time, in the future past today, Dec., 30 2021, as you believe.
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    Then I must be misunderstanding your meaning: "It's my belief that this building around the temple mount will stir the world's "Muslims" troublous times, as this is a holy site in their religion, their armies will surround Jerusalem as the building stops, Messiah cut off" I am assuming that...
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    A. If you do not see this as being the Lord's Crucifixion, how then shall he be "cut off" upon His return?? B. If you do not see this as having already taken place in 70AD by the Roman Titus, then you believe none of that is fulfilled yet??
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    Satan, who is the most subtil beast in the field, is going to tell you that he is coming, But has no intention of showing up. I see that you are a literalist. So then, you have nothing to say about the Messiah's first appearance, as shown in Daniel 9[25] Know therefore and understand, that from...
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    Well, are you brave? Though very simple, but long, can you endure the length of this study? Let's see if it really is Jesus that is the "he" that is being describe in Daniel 9:27. 27 And he [Jesus] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: One prophetic week (7x1) equals 7 years...
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    ^ So, what do we have here, that is supportive of my understanding about the truth that is revealed in the 70 weeks? Both the scriptures and the Holy Spirit testify that the truthful interpretation is mainly about Jesus.
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    Like I said, you have hooked up with the view that you have, because you see (have been led to believe) that the word "he" in 9:27 is speaking of what the "tares" in church-ianity have conjured up! I perceive, with OT and NT scripture, that the word "he" in 9:27, is speaking of Jesus 99% of the...
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    It's amazing how all of your focus on Daniel, is futuristic of the Lord's RETURN, and not one peep from you about Jesus' first appearance. One would think that God the Father would be all excited in 538BC to exclaim through his prophets of the wonderful works that He was prepared to do for us...