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Yes! The so called " Rapture" is the 2nd coming of the Lord in all His Glory, in flaming firem In your quote of 1 Thes. 5:2-3, notice the words "they shall NOT escape". That means that there will be NO escapees to re-populate the planet!

So also in "that Day", does destruction take place simultaneosly! But it appears that you are led astray and locked up with the foul doctrine of "peace and safety", of which both the world and the churches are trumpeting. 1 Thessalonians 5:3

I could make a point about it, and have done so in the past, but the church is so extremely divided over it, the discussion never gets beyond the arguing, so that a formal and healthy discussion can be had. So yes, it might be serious request, but rather it should be more of a truthful...

Pet doctrines can be idols also!!

All doctrines of Christianity pivot and divide on these two concepts: 1. Man was given an eternal soul. 2. Man became a living soul. Now, lets talk about how total victory over death was accomplished by God's judgment of Eternal Life, through faith in His Son. John 3:18 Romans 8:8-9 Stop. We...

Yes, I agree! My post was revealing the God generated "seed" of God's Holy Spirit for man. He was first initiated to usward, through the sacrificial death of God the Son, of whom had become the Firstborn from the dead. He Himself became the First New Creature of God the Father's New Creation in...

I agree! If one shall follow Jesus, they must come to understand that we are to NOW follow Him in His death and His Resurrection! But it is a process, that is in the reverse order of His! Jesus, through faith in God the Father: 1. He who was Spirit, 2. became mortal Flesh, 3. Baptized/infilled...

Hi, I don't want drag this out, but we all need to go back and re-center the core of our understandings, and why there is conflict with others and their understandings. I think most Christians read NT prophecy through the filter of numerous preconceived theories, of which many false doctrines...

Not so fast "GE", Surely, as we both are "amillennial" , we fully understand that the symbolic age of "a thousand years" speaks of the Age of God's Grace through Jesus, beginning on the Day of Pentecost to the present. When we look at the context of Rev. 20:1-6 (KJV only), we can see that satan...

You are the one churning up the water, getting it all muddied into confusion. Acronym: KISS, "keep it simple silly" .

All one has to do, to avoid your foul mantra of mumbo-jumbo, is READ 1 John 5:13, of which YOU SAY is a lie! Here, I will make it easy for all: 1 John 5[12] He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.[13] These things have I written unto you that believe...

1 John 5[13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that YE HAVE eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Anyone who HAS the Gift of the Holy Spirit, HAS the Gift of HIS Eternal Life! Rev. 20[6] Blessed and...

"Truth makes no enemies, except in the minds of those who attempt to refute it."- Earburner

^ it is apparent to me, that you are filtering your thinking through one of two, if not both false doctrines of "man received an Eternal soul", and/or the "Pre-millennial concept" of an earth remoldeled/repaired and made over!

You don't understand! The totality of death, and every remnant of it, graves (hell) included, will be engulfed in His flaming and consuming fire, resulting in the lake of fire, over the entire earth's surface, that there will be NO TRACE of death, that it ever happened!

Thread Title: "Death is swallowed up in victory-When?" Ans. See the word "when", written TWO times in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10- KJV.

Yes!! We who are born again of God's Holy Spirit have the Victory over death right now! 1 John 5:13. However, one might ask, how is death vanquished, eliminated altogether among the unsaved, IF they are allowed to remain alive and "ESCAPE" into a "Millennium on earth", fabricated by the...

Evidently, you did read!

Lol... 1 Cor. 2[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. [15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. [16] For who hath...