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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    False assurance is the assurance that we may not be saved in the end, that we do not really have eternal life. But we have to earn it John wrote to keep us from this thinking 1 John 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Yes, Sanctification. But your justification is not based on how sanctified you become, it depends on how righteous Jesus was and the cross..
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    You still do not get it THESE PEOPLE NEVER MADE THE DECISION. They got close. maybe even walked with people in the church. But they never made the decision. In the end, they will spend eternity saying they was this close and walked away.. It will be worse for them.. also remember, those...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    See. You refuse to admit you are trying to earn your salvation. ps. Work out YOUR SALVATION, ie, take the salvation you have and all that comes with it AND WORK IT OUT> Thats a bit different than to say work to earn your salvation.
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Yes,, but those people never came to christ.. They never made the decision.. Why do you refuse to acknowledge your trying to earn your salvation?
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    John said they were never of us People can turn away having never come to true saving faith. But people who have been born of God do not turn away and not believe. Not to mention.That is saying God is not very smart. he saved people and sealed them with the spirit KNOWING they would walk away...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Yes, If I want to mature as a child of God. I need to pick up my cross daily Thats called christian growth Its not earning your salvation.. you were saved the moment you became like the tax collector (if you did)
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    You must not have very much faith if at all then. If you really trust you were condemned, and headed to outer darkness, and really trusted that the cross saved you the thought of walking away would never even cross your mind unless you never really had faith. But just tried christianity out...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    So Jesus did not say it is finished? Yes, Like those in james, they believed like demons, but they had no faith.. You do not leave people you trust. Sorry, I should have been more clear.. I figured you would understand eph 2: 8 - 9 is beginning in the spirit. that's how we are saved by faith...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Thats trying to earn your salvation. Why did God call it is gift if it can be earned, for that matter, why did he die on the cross if yuo could earn it?
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Give it up? that was not the point the point is THEY NEVER BELIEVED.. They just came along for the ride. but never really trusted, Their hearts were back in Egypt
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    yes, a person who CLAIMS they have faith, but has absolutely zero works. is deceived into saying they have faith, when they do not But Paul said if anyone is found by works, they have something to boast. But not before God.. Paul and james did nto contradict each other
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Why would a person not continue?
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    the term harden means to strengthen, when a persons heart is hardened, it means it is strengthened to continue to believe what they believe (or do not believe)
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Yes, thats why he made the statement he did
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    why would you Hod could Gods salvation became so untrustowrthy you would renounce your faith?
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Actually, to say one can is to Call Paul and God a liar we are sealed UNTIL redemption day (ressurection) It does not say unless we turn away. It says until If our seal can be broken, God lied.
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    We can't turn from God and give up what he paid for, Its his to give, And he promised he would never take it back ERternal security is real. You may not believe in the calvinist view of once saved always saved, But it is real..
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    They also have Gods promise they will never perish, but have eternal life (live forever) and have passed from judgment to life..
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Once saved, always saved is a myth.

    Hope you feel better soon