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Thank you. I feel I am being pretty clear. Maybe I am not. I apologize if I am not. Scripture has MANY references to baptism that elude to baptism by water. The two you referenced do not speak directly about baptism by water. Do you believe the Ephesians and Romans passages that you...

How do you know they didn't study diligently? They convinced many people they did. Not sure what my legitimate question has to do with having any love in me. Maybe you can explain? Your theory suggest no Christian should be unteachable and that any man that is learning and studying...

That passage doesn't say anything about baptism. Are you talking about baptism with water?

Hi....What is an "actual baptism"?

Jim Jones, Fred Phelps and David Koresh studied diligently. I wonder if they got the reward He promised? :rolleyes: Mary

Or Calvinism??

If neither of you are the arbiter of Scripture why should I listen to you?

OK....soooo neither you, he or I are not the arbiter of Scripture......who is? It stands to reason if you KNOW that the three of us are not then you MUST know who is. ;) Scripture makes it clear that there are false teachings and sound doctrine. If what he is saying is sound doctrine then...

Putting Acts 2:44 (were together and had all things in common) in context means they would sell their possessions and distribute the proceeds to the needy; they spent much time together in the temple; they broke bread at home and ate their food with glad and generous hearts (acts 2:45-46). I...

And you or he is????

Hi Truth, Can you please give the passages from Scripture that buttress points 1-4? Points #2 and #4 are foreign to me. Mary

There is no such thing as "baptizing by teaching". There is no such thing as being baptized by being immersed in Christ. Your theory is not based on Scripture. In every instance of baptism in Scripture there was first the teaching to convince (convert) and then once they believed (were...

OK....you liked his post. His post is a teaching that is opposite of Scripture. And your proud of that? o_O

hi FHII, Ya' and He literally walked on water, healed the sick/blind, raised people from the dead, fed thousands with a few loaves of bread/fish etc. sooooo we must literally do all that also since he literally died on the cross???? What a silly rebuttal.....you really didn't think that one...

Hi FHII, I got your memo. You make it clear that the literal practice of baptism with water isn't required/necessary. Your memo clearly states that we literally do not have to follow the example that Jesus gave us which is be baptized by water and his instruction to baptize all nations with...

Thank you. All I know is that it is clear to everyone who believes they are being guided by the Holy Spirit and their interpretation is colored by bias.....including you and your biases. YOUR interpretation takes precedence over the basic hermeneutics that have been taught for 2,000 years.

Hi FHII, Soooo let me see if I got your theory right. Jesus was baptized (Matthew 3) but we don't have to be baptized and follow his example? Jesus told the Apostles to baptize (Matthew 28) but that practice ended when the Apostles died because they were "in the Bible" and we are not...

That's a bold endeavor since it was first written in 3(?) different languages. If your interpretation is different then the Apostolic Fathers interpretation....who should I believe? Curious Mary

If it's so clear then why do so many learned men disagree on what Scripture clearly teaches? If the reformers got this clear teaching in Scripture wrong what else did they get wrong and how do we know what they got wrong? Who decides? Curious Mary

Where did you admit that my quotes were accurate? I can't find it....