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Sin comes in through the lusts of the world and of the flesh. If you are crucified with Christ you are dead to this world and the fleshly lusts. This death to the self and to the world makes us alive to God. 2Co_4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life...

There is also a spiritual dialectic without which we cannot see the truth. Let's look at a biblical issue like a big heavy pole....if you lift it at one end you only have one aspect of the truth....if you lift at the other end you get the other aspect. So denominations are created when people...

You are blessed to see this! So few do!! :)

Amen! ;) Beautifully said!

Again...as long as by saved you mean the same thing as a person coming through a war having lost all his limbs, his sight and his hearing...but still alive....then I agree with you. Who just wants to be saved????? The bible may say that the disciples in that time were crucified according to...

I have none since I have no opinion to promote. It would have to be in the form of a testimony to the truth writen in the bible. What you disagree with is the writings of the bible...your overview is actually an edit of the verses that you have selected to support your opinion...nothing more.

Gal_6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. 1Co_1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

It is the walking in the Spirit that saves us and sanctifies us. There is no salvation at present outside of abiding in Christ. No one has a saved ticket in their pocket. No one owns salvation. I am saying that performance is a fruit of being in God's presence. The chastisement comes when we...

That's great Rach!!! :) The enemy is very busy stealing potential disciples away from Christ by inoculating them against the truth from the get go. There are very few in these times that have experienced walking in resurrection power. It is probably the best kept secret in the world. The battle...

If a person cannot stop sinning through a divine nature then Jesus died and was resurrected for nothing...Adam still wins.

What I deny is the ability to declare oneself righteous. Only God Himself can declare a person fit for eternity. A covenant is between 2 parties. We have our part to play in that what God has started we must be dilligent to allow Him to continue in us...not go off half baked claiming we are...

You are yourself a sinner...where's your grace grace grace???

I hope the message you hear is confirmed by what God is calling you to.

You are choosing your own instructions...hardly the way to grow beyond your present place. God uses living people too. I am only pointing out the other verses that you have not yet incorporated into your life. Of course you are already comfortable with the verses you have selected for your...

Heb_12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. Righteousness is a fruit that comes out of the crucifying of the self life....and the putting on of...

Yes...but we are a mixture of the old and the new....until we go to the cross. It is what you speak of that keeps us alive through the crucifying of our old natures. So if you have faith in God....trust Him to finish the work He has started in you. Rom_6:19 I speak after the manner of men...

I'm trying to get you to see that you lack the full understanding of the gospel...that is why the verses that I point out to you sound so foreign. Most of the bible makes no sense (too complicated) when one is trying to make do with a partial understanding. What is missing is the actual laying...

Are you exhibiting this love???

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