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  1. mailmandan

    Not by works - but by faith

    Faith is the assurance (NASB, NRSV, ESV, RSV etc..) of things hoped for.. Unlike the english word "hope," the N.T. word contains no uncertainty; it speaks of something that is certain. - Strong's #1680 elpís (from elpō, "to anticipate, welcome") – properly, expectation of what is sure (certain)...
  2. mailmandan

    Not by works - but by faith

    Amen! Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. (NASB) Works are the fruit, by product and demonstrative evidence of faith, but not the essence of faith and not the basis or means by which we obtain salvation. (Ephesians 2:8,9) In James...
  3. mailmandan

    Not by works - but by faith

    So where do you draw the line in the sand and say that you did "enough" works, so now the Lord will be able to save you? How much work, effort, courage and endurance does it take? In James 2:15-16, the example of a "work" that James gives is: "If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of...
  4. mailmandan

    Not by works - but by faith

    Do you interpret "not of works" in Ephesians 2:9 to mean we are merely not saved by "works of the law" and not works in general? Do you believe that man is saved by faith + certain other works?
  5. mailmandan

    Not by works - but by faith

    Before I answer any further questions, I'm still waiting for you to answer my question from post #126.
  6. mailmandan

    Not by works - but by faith

    Justification is not a process, yet there are 3 tenses to salvation that can get mixed up. 1. We have been saved from the PENALTY of sin (justification) 2. We are being saved from the POWER of sin (ongoing sanctification) 3. We will be saved from the PRESENCE of sin (glorification)
  7. mailmandan

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Amen! The concept of Tradition is a convenient excuse for the Roman Catholic magisterium to teach whatever they desire as if it is the Word of God, and without any accountability whatsoever. It is useless to protest that such teachings as papal infallibility and the Marian dogmas are absent from...
  8. mailmandan

    Not by works - but by faith

    Believing takes humility in recognizing the wages of sin is death (we deserve death because of our sins and cannot save ourselves) but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Believing is not just another work in a series of works in a quest to obtain salvation by works...
  9. mailmandan

    Not by works - but by faith

    Are you saying "not of works" in Ephesians 2:9 equates to we are saved by "these" works (works involved in following Christ after we have been saved through faith) and just not "those" works (works of the law)?
  10. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Amen! What certain people do is isolate their pet verses, build doctrine on them, then ignore the context and the rest of scripture, which does not line up with their biased interpretation of those pet verses. Such people also fail to properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching...
  11. mailmandan

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. Walking in darkness is...
  12. mailmandan

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    He is deeply indoctrinated into Campbellism and clearly needs to repent and believe the gospel. It would seem that he would walk around mountains of grace in order to find water. I at one time had temporarily attended the so called church of Christ several years ago and water baptism was just...
  13. mailmandan

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    We can argue "he said, they said" all day long, but ultimately, that is not going to settle the issue. You were not being completely honest when quoting AT Robertson (which doesn't surprise me). AT Robertson said there is a reference to baptism, but, as in Romans 6:3-6 , the immersion is the...
  14. mailmandan

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    Nothing in context would lead one to believe that "water" in John 3:5 means water baptism. You are simply accommodating your theological bias. Jesus is talking about being born again from above, which has a spiritual application. Further into Jesus' conversation with Nicodemus, we read 14 - And...
  15. mailmandan

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Amen! - The Catholic Church Teaches Salvation by Works
  16. mailmandan

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    "Acts of obedience" which "follow" saving faith in Christ are "works." There is a difference between doing God's will "in order to become saved" and doing God's will "after" we have been saved. You mix both will's together and create salvation by works. If getting water baptized stands between...
  17. mailmandan

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    Those that gladly accepted Peter's word were (afterwards) baptized. Those who rejected Peter's message there would obviously not bother to get water baptized, although sadly today, there are multitudes of people who attend various false religions and cults who get water baptized, but do not...
  18. mailmandan

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    So you clearly admit that you believe man is saved by works, contrary to (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9) I clearly remember the preacher at the church of Christ that I attended several years ago teaching salvation by works (with a heavy emphasis on water baptism)...
  19. mailmandan

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    John 3:5, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Titus 3:5 say nothing at all about "water baptism." *Read 1 Corinthians 12:13 again. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. This is clearly Spirit...
  20. mailmandan

    Is BAPTISM MANDATORY for SALVATION...

    Mark 16:16 - He who believes and is baptized will be saved (general cases without making a qualification for the unusual case of someone who believes but is not baptized) but he who does not believe will be condemned. The omission of baptized with "does not believe" shows that Jesus does not...