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  1. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    No. I did not mean belief; I meant disbelief. I got something for you from today's devotional reading.
  2. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    No blame other than on those who do not submit to God's lordship over their lives. Don't worry about putting God on the hook. He does not mind being on the hook. However, if you think your in the position to judge your own Creator, think again for you are a subject not a sovereign. Thinking we...
  3. Wrangler

    Freedom of selection: does it really boil down to 'tolerance'?

    Your premise is wrong. It is wrong because you have embraced what I call The Perversion of Equality. At the genus level, difference does not matter. However, at the next level of analysis, difference matters. It always mattered and differences will always matter. Today's notion of equality is...
  4. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Not sure when our society deemed victimhood empowering. They are the most oppresive, special interest group today, trying to dictate how others talk with their preferred pronouns and nouns. A man who is trans is a trans-man. A woman who is trans is a trans-woman. They are wrong and backwards...
  5. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    It means abandoned is the field to defend the original assertion. FWIW, normally the OP is the original assertion in the thread, not the counter to the OP, as you imply here. I agree with the OP. It gets confusing when you say original assertion by don't mean the OP but a poster's...
  6. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Atheism on Trial. It is a good read. Arguments against God do not stand up to scrutiny. All you do is embrace nihilism, deny, deny, deny - as you drown in evidence.
  7. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    No, when oppressed groups do violence, they are justified. When oppressor groups do violence, they are not justified. So goes the party line.
  8. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    I could have also said nature. Point is, mentally ill people do not identify reality properly. What is this movement to acquiesce to their malady?
  9. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Yes, you have lost the argument. You just don’t realize it. Instead, you doubled down on your defeat.
  10. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    The opposition to self-identity is not based on hate but love, love of the truth. And the truth is one’s identity is not subjectively determined. It is determined by God. A doctor does not identify sex of a new born. He objectively identifies the sex - and gender - of the baby. It is foolish...
  11. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    This thread addresses 2 myths in Christiandom: Eternal Suffering. Not only wrong theologically from an all-loving God; it is wrong logically, for 2nd death (non-existence)) is not suffering. Immortal Soul. If the soul were immortal, there would not be 2nd death AND Jesus would not have said...
  12. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Yes, only because they experience 2nd death in the Lake of Fire, from which there is no recovery.
  13. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    You just lost the argument, turning from the OP question to me, personally.
  14. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Non-existence is not a place.
  15. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    The dead don't suffer or praise God.
  16. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Again, what makes you think it could not have other benefits? Regular Use of Ivermectin as Prophylaxis for COVID-19 Led Up to a 92% Reduction in COVID-19 Mortality Rate The Ivermectin African Enigma Large majority of randomized and observational controlled trials of ivermectin are reporting...
  17. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Because the wages of sin is death, it necessarily means the wages is not anything else - including eternal suffering.
  18. Wrangler

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    While I agree, this is not the point of the thread, but rather the nature of an all-oving God as it relates to Christendom's perverion of what hell is (place the dead go) with and what hell is not (eternal suffering).