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  1. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    I am not objecting to the fact that she was a virgin before conception, nor am I addressing whether or not she had children with Joseph. I am asking for you to produce the phrase Perpetual Virgin or Virgin Mary in the Bible....or even worded directly but different...or something like and she was...
  2. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    As I said, Legal or adopted....or both. It was a secret that was kept.
  3. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    All kool, now give the biblical references that describe that arrangement.
  4. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Find the phrase Perpetual Virgin or Virgin Mary in the Bible....or even worded directly but different...like and she was perpetually a virgin or an eternal virgin. You are probably going to assume something here about me that is incorrect...
  5. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Certainly, all have sin and have fallen short of the glory of God...Like I said it was impossible to keep the Mosaic Law in that time period. But then again, no sin that was worth noting in the scriptures...the only sin involved is adultery. God impregnating a woman that was engaged was...
  6. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Well it depends lol Legal or adopted....or both. It was a secret that was kept.
  7. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Your mistake is common. Your thinking that Heaven and Hell are the only possible spiritual destinations.
  8. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    What are you looking for?
  9. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    How did.... I disagree that everyone in OT was spiritually dead.....turn into Did everyone in the Old Testament sin? Sin is going on all the time 24/7....but that did not mean they were spiritually dead. The NT does address this. Like we are dead in our sins and transgressions and Christ said...
  10. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Listen here girly I just hope you are all God blessed!
  11. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    The whole vial thing... Sin separated God from Man in the OT. But I disagree that everyone in OT was spiritually dead.
  12. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    God said to Adam......‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’” Adam did not die....he started to die. All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. What is it to be sinless? What is the norm?
  13. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Context is my specialty. lol
  14. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Death is the wages of sin....right? Adam's sin had an affect on all of us....we die! Mankind was judged. But sin is not passed by human seed. Babies who die do not go to Hell. And again the topic of sin....like before and after the Mosaic Law and before and after a person is saved. A very...
  15. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    lol That is what the Bible says.... You must hate your mother and father to be a disciple of Christ..... Christ explained that the end would occur during their generation and all of the Apostles believed they were living in the last days, not month or even years....what is the story behind that...
  16. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Guilty as charged.... But what is Paul saying when he says all have sinned? And I do not see biblical support that Adam's seed was corrupt....in fact God Himself refers to the holy seed.
  17. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    They do say that. Hands down! But what is the story behind them. You must hate your mother and father to be a disciple of Christ..... Christ explained that the end would occur during their generation and all of the Apostles believed they were living in the last days, not month or even...
  18. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    All that is true. Straight from the Bible. Still it does not say that the thief was saved or that they were going to Heaven. Is it more important to lead a horse to water or the truth....would a horse know the truth....lol The kingdom thing opens up a whole different topic.
  19. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    I disagree. But that is OK. If God is doing the picking, He is likely to pick the most pure...without blemish. Sin is a norm...most certainly under the 613 Mosaic Laws. In the Old Testament it was probably impossible to keep. In the New Testament period it was absolutely impossible to keep...
  20. Grailhunter

    Perpetual virginity of Mary!

    Sounds a little Calvinist. I understand the scriptures and the story behind them.