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  1. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    The gifts fell too. I understand that you do not think a nonbeliever in Jesus, though you forget they are believers in the Messiah, can be filled with the Spirit. But the Spirit is using His own gifts to draw God's devoted people, and in this case, the gift of interpretation of tongues. I've...
  2. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Going for coffee. See y'all later.
  3. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    So when Mormons speak in tongues you understand what you are saying?
  4. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Huh? This doesn't appear you understand that the initial receiving of the Holy Spirit (the phenomenon) is once and you just keep getting new fillings or anointings for additional gifts. Once you are born again, you have the ability to speak in tongues. You don't lose it. First sentence, I...
  5. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    But you defined it as "naturally learning a new language to preach to foreigners." 1 Corinthians 14:2 is the definition. You are not learning a new language that man can understand. God is giving you a language that only He can understand. And the human hearer can only understand by the...
  6. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Yes, they HEARD. But it was supernatural hearing, not natural. Supernatural hearing is how the gift of interpretation of tongues works so the person with the gift can understand in order to give the interpretation.
  7. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    But Jane, Acts 2:4-7 and 1 Corinthians 14:2 have to agree. They cannot contradict each other. Read further in Acts 2: 6 And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone (singular) heard them (plural) speak in his own language. ... 8 And how is it...
  8. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Hi Jane, long time no hear. Read 1 Corinthians 14:2. How does your church interpret that seeing it is the opposite of what you just said. My Mormon girlfriend said Mormons believe in speaking in tongues, but she failed to give me that definition. Silly me assumed she was talking about the...
  9. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    I believed I had God's Spirit too for 30 years! What a lie the church teaches. You teach a half truth, because you don't know the condition. I was a professing Christian, but the difference between me and a true Christian was, I couldn't stop sinning! For six months I tried every month to give...
  10. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Are you kidding me? The ONLY way to overcome sin is by the Spirit. And you have to have the Holy Spirit to be born again. The old nature we inherited from Adam is full of sin. The only way not to sin is by getting out of that flesh/nature. You don't believe scripture says that, but it does...
  11. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    This is like the guy who went back to their weakness because they had no actual strength from the Holy Spirit in them. They just had faith they did. Believe me you don't have to have faith as in the substance of things hoped for, or the evidence of things not seen to know you have the Holy...
  12. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    I know this is true because Jesus said so. Notice these are calling Jesus, Lord. Matthew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied...
  13. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Well, now you know that I said no such thing except in your mind. Goes through all of what? What did they go through and still have no power over sin? Some make-believe formula that hasn't a chance of working? Yes, they still need to TRULY repent and filled with the Holy Spirit. IOW get on...
  14. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Not at all! Just the opposite. I do not believe speaking in tongues is the 'evidence' of being filled with the Spirit. A dramatic power over sin is the evidence, making us dead to sin, and not in the flesh but in the Spirit. The benefits of having the gifts are real but gravy. The problem with...
  15. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Don't you know there are many going to church that are still slaves to sin? They have never been born again of the Spirit and if they never become filled with the Holy Spirit and experience the great power received, they will not be going to heaven.
  16. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    15 What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. This tells us we can pray in tongues (the Spirit), or pray with the interpretation/understanding. And we can...
  17. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    What ignorance of the Scriptures. 1 Corinthians 14:2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. 1 Corinthians 14:21-23 In the law it is written: “With men of other tongues and other lips I will...
  18. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    No, I got tongues on the same night I was born again and baptized with the Holy Spirit. They are one and the same. That is why it is disturbing to realize that for a little over the first two decades of my life going to church from an infant, I was not saved. But knowing what I know now, I don't...
  19. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    This passage has nothing to do with the gifts of the Spirit, let alone tongues. What a misinterpretation. It actually has to do with Gnostics and the gross error they believed regarding SIN. You have to know what the apostle means in order to not take scripture out of context as you just did...
  20. CharismaticLady

    Pagan Tongues VS God's Real Gift of Tongues

    Later in life? I was 29 1/2.