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  1. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    Almost like a force of some kind flung them to the ground. What are the odds that they all just slipped on the same banana peel? :IDK:
  2. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    Butter knives, spoons, and other assorted dull objects, that would cause minor irritation and abrasions. :gd
  3. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    Real life isn't a movie. Split second decisions have to be made. Just ask any police officer.
  4. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    No. So I was right. You're gonna use the butter knives.
  5. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    I'm not trying to persuade you. Then what are the guns for? Hunting? Because if you have to shoot sometime in self defense, there's a good chance they'll die.
  6. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    Alright. So that's finally established. We're all allowed to have opinions. Do you use the guns to spread the jam and the butter knives for self defense?
  7. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    As it was presented: Christians have a right to defend themselves, their families, and their country, from harm. You said you're okay with that so long as it doesn't result in the death of the one doing the harm. Which I think is really silly. I'm assuming you mean guns and not butter knives?
  8. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    It is the reality of the world we live in. Being a pacifist in this world is a death sentence. What did I say earlier? It's a long thread.
  9. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    Why are you asking everyone if they own a weapon? Go buy your own.
  10. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    No. Killing an enemy, for whatever reason, is just buisness. Murder is killing innocent people that are not your enemies.
  11. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    It is not one's moral and civic duty to murder. I know you don't draw a distinction between self defense and murder, but most other people do. I think you're right.
  12. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    Hi, Debbie. I didn't watch this one. However, I agree with the message. However, there is a difference between flipping tables and killing a man. The crux of the issue is, can Christians kill other people is Jesus commanded us to do otherwise? Matthias, to his credit, has been fairly clear on...
  13. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    None. Do you think me some kind of bloodthirsty tyrant?
  14. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    I doubt it. But then again, who is pleased with Catholicism? Look at all those gay outfits they wear. They look like Liberace. :funlaugh2
  15. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    No. Because the Roman Empire was an occupying force.
  16. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    This doesn't contradict the idea that defending yourself, your family, or even your nation, is a moral and civic duty.
  17. Riven

    Iran war meme thread

  18. Riven

    The good man that turned bad out of necessity

    What do you think is going to happen to the may Christians in the military and elsewhere that use lethal force in self defense, or offensively in war?