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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yeah I do but it’s already happened. I’m not waiting for the kingdom to come, I’m not waiting for heavenly Jerusalem to descend from the clouds, I live in heavenly Jerusalem right now. I’m not waiting live in the 1000 year reign, I’m living it now. I’m not like Jews in Christs day, I’m not...
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    In November states will have to give free health care to illegals, Biden and Harris executive policy rule in effect

    You’re right but it’s going to go down one of two ways. 2Ki 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha Or...
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    In November states will have to give free health care to illegals, Biden and Harris executive policy rule in effect

    How well do you think guns will work against endless swarms of AI killer drones armed with C4 charges?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I haven’t figured that one out yet. I have ideas but until I know beyond the shadow of a doubt all I can say is I don’t know.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I just read and believe what I read. I trust God will correct me when I go off coarse.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Do you think God avenged their blood in 70AD or are those Old Testament saints still waiting under the alter?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So in your opinion does any of that relate to Jesus going to the heart of the earth and preaching to the dead?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    My overall beliefs are the resurrection of Christ was the second coming, the first resurrection started at the resurrection of Christ and is ongoing forever as far as I can tell, I don’t see an end in the Bible. There is no label to give it. I believe every single word in the Bible exactly as...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Ok so you tell me what the alter is.
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    King nebukedazzer type for antichrist ?

    I’ll have to say that’s a new one on me.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your concept of the second death and lake of fire are completely different from mine that’s why I didn’t elaborate.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Revelation 6:9-11 calls them souls because they’re the Old Testament saints before the resurrection. The alter was the cross which means the souls UNDER the alter are the souls in “the heart of the earth”, Abraham’s bosom. Verse 11 is after the resurrection. Rev 6:11 And white robes were...
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    King nebukedazzer type for antichrist ?

    So your saying the antichrists speech is confirmation that God gave Israel the land forever?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes I’m aware of all the verses about hell.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    When you leave this world are you going to heaven unclothed or clothed in the glorified body?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Which one is spiritual and which one physical?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If your asking when we get our new bodies it’s when we leave this world. 2Co 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes the body we have now will die and we will die in our sins along with it if we haven’t accepted Christ. If we accept Christ and our soul has been resurrected from death to eternal life then we get the heavenly body to experience heaven.
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    How to Effectively Study and Interpret of the Bible

    I know what you mean. I listen to a few preachers (very few and infrequent) but I rely totally on the Bible to learn things.