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  1. Wrangler

    The Real : ISSUE

    Dude. A gift must be received to be a benefit. This is not something that even God can do for us. You are speaking falsehoods, so perverted is your opposition to 'works.'
  2. Wrangler

    The Real : ISSUE

    You really are obsessed with OSAS. Nothing you say will ever take away the conditional nature of God’s grace; the condition being our uniting actions. If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9 If we...
  3. Wrangler

    Conversation with An Atheist

    Repeating The Original Sin. Stop trying to understand! Start trying to submit. In fact don’t try. There is no try! Do or do not! Do not lean on your own understanding, Take your next step in faith. And then the next one. And the next one, etc.
  4. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    So, sex out of Wedlock is sometimes OK?
  5. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    See post #31. @Debp, what do you think of the wives of Abraham and Jacob, who insisted their husbands have sex with their servants? Notice how Scripture tacitly approved of this by the absence of moral condemnation?
  6. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Semantics. You keep making distinctions without a difference.
  7. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Repeatedly addressed. Paul said this was not the command of God.
  8. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Really? “Lower downside risk” is not superior?
  9. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Agreed. This has already been presented 3 times where Scripture considers sexual union with a prostitute to be morally permissible. (See post with Jericho about tacit approval.) Cancel culture today prevents us from recognizing the pros and cons of a proposition. Instead of recognizing the...
  10. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Lack discernment eh? What verse did you past all kids of translations of? @Lambano already went to the original language, where it was exclusively used to apply to prostitutes.
  11. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    First, I reject the claim that it is a sin as that is Circular Reasoning of the point of this thread. Second, if one action having less severe actions than another does not make it superior, what would?
  12. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    I noticed you disregarded the verses in the OP that supports engaging with a prostitute as the morally superior option.
  13. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Hmmm. In the translation I cited, there is a NOT to the imperative, it is NOT command, Paul clarified. This is why I categorized it as should, a personal preference. What time will dinner be ready? One hour after you come home. Should you be late, I’ll: A. Still feed you? B. Call it a sin, a...
  14. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    What verse in the NT universally condemns soliciting a prostitute? And how do you reconcile that with it NOT being called a new law when, as you say, was allowed in the OT?
  15. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Agreed that there is no adultery in Paul’s example. For some reason, you’re ignoring his confession that he is talking about his personal preference of what is ideal and NOT stating a commandment from God.
  16. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Although the OP addresses how the Bible condones prostitution, I think most adults have or had a sexual friend, aka boyfriend or girlfriend. This implies commitment, even if less than marriage. And I think it's even more difficult to make the argument that having a boyfriend or girlfriend falls...
  17. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Agreed. However, what is preferred is not the question of the OP. If it is not prohibited by law, then it is condoned EVEN IF not preferred, EVEN IF we should do something else. I spoke last night with the leader of a local men's group. We're meeting for the first time for dinner. Just the two...
  18. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Again, Paul also admits what he writes is NOT a commandment from God. 1 COR 7:6 Now as a concession, not a command, I say this.[a] 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. 8 To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is...
  19. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    Agreed. Didn't I make that point in the OP?
  20. Wrangler

    Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

    @Jericho, there is so much wrong with your post, I'm going to take the time to dissect your points one at a time. Your main problem is that you use words in your argument that you don't understand. You can't have it both ways. Either action is prohibited or it is not. Sure, one can say the...