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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Thats okay, doesnt change the work of the Spirit being identified inwardly.
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    @Ronald Nolette Yes I do, its listed in the definition of the word for that reason
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Accepted in Him equates to Justification in Him ! In line with the fact that Gods elect/chosen are Justified in Christ before the foundation as Per Eph 1:4, because they are in Him, and there's no condemnation to them in Him Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    The Elect were Justified in Christ before the world began ! Now this is True on Two grounds. #1 They are in Christ due to their election in Him Eph 1:4 and 1 Cor 1:30 It is because of him[God the Father] that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Eternal Justification is true because Justification by Grace is true Rom 3:24;Titus3:7; and since Grace had been given believers before the world began 2Tim1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    @Ronald Nolette Yes it is. Draw the greek word ἑλκύσῃ means: to draw, drag off metaph., to draw by inward power, lead, impel metaphorically, to draw by inward power, lead, impel: John 6:44 (so in Greek also; as ἐπιθυμίας... ἑλκουσης ἐπὶ ἡδονάς Jesus is using the word here and Jn 12:32...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Also, it should go without saying, to deny eternal justification based upon the Cross in time, is to deny Justification by the Cross in time, they are inseparable. Even though the Cross did not actually occur until 33ad, it by no means subjected God to have to wait until then to acquit His Elect...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    The Drawing Jn 6:44;12:32 is regeneration, the giving of new Spiritual life. Its an inner drawing, power
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Eternal Justification based upon the Suretyship of Christ ! It cant be denied by the adversaries of Truth that Christ was made a Surety for a better Covenant Heb 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament, which I believe refers to the Everlasting Covenant Heb 13:20 Now the...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Justification before the foundation for certain sinners is true simply because from everlasting their Surety, the Lord Jesus Christ was ordained in the counsels of God to satisfy God against their sins and iniquities that they would commit in time, so we read 1 Pet 1:18-20 18 Forasmuch as ye...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    When was He Jesus made a Surety of a better covenant ? Heb 7:22 22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament/covenant. The word testament diathéké is also translated covenant. So Jesus was made a Surety of a Better Covenant, which is the Everlasting Covenant Heb 13:20 20 Now...
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    Freed : From Calvinism and HyperCalvinism )Tulip<>5 Pont.

    I feel sorry for u,may God be merciful to you
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    Freed : From Calvinism and HyperCalvinism )Tulip<>5 Pont.

    Its speaking of individual salvation, Sovereign Election of individuals over other individuals. Jacob and Esau are individuals in Rom9 narrative. Everything is in the singular for individuals Rom 9:11-24 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the...
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    Freed : From Calvinism and HyperCalvinism )Tulip<>5 Pont.

    You dont have to respond to me,but this is a public forum, so: its speaking of individual salvation, Sovereign Election of individuals over other individuals.
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    Freed : From Calvinism and HyperCalvinism )Tulip<>5 Pont.

    @GodsGrace False, its speaking of individual salvation, Sovereign Election of individuals over other individuals.
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    When were believers first in Christ ? 1 Cor 1:30 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: This scripture indicates the absolute Truth of the Gospel of Eternal Justification or believers having been...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Thats your understanding, which means nothing to me
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    The world has been “made right” in front of God.

    @Ronald Nolette Im afraid this is false friend. First, Christ only died for the elect and Justified them Rom 8:33-34 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Eternal Justification before the world began ! Though its not specifically stated, it is strongly indicated and signified in 2 Tim 1:9 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ...