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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It is about Salvation, and the 144000 is the Church, the body of Christ, and dont misrepresent me, I never said anything about the 144 000 symbolizes all mankind, but thy symbolize the Church, since when does the Church denote all mankind ?
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Thats your opinion it doesnt match, but its the Truth Christ's death for the Elect does bring about their subjective reconciliation to God [conversion] 1 Pet 3:18 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Oh its there, unfortunately you cant see it.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Yes it is, but you cant see it. 1 Pet 3 18 is about the subjective reconciliation of Gods elect. Look who Peter is writing to 1 Pet 1:2 2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    So you believe Christ shed His Blood to save the tares, the vessels of wrath fitted for destruction ?
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No its clearly the Church, you are trusting in the flesh, you salvation by the flesh, ethnicity, thats a denial of Grace
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Now Christ's death for the Elect does bring about their subjective reconciliation to God [conversion] 1 Pet 3:18 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 22
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It clearly is the church.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Thats too bad then
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    I gave you my reply
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You promoting racial salvation, denies grace so is apostate
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You promoting racial salvation, denies grace so is apostate
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I can agree with this, for these two passages speak of the same thing Matt 24:29-31 1 Thess 4:15-17
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Salvation by ethnicity, the flesh distinction, which denies Grace and is frankly apostate from the Faith
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Salvation by ethnicity, the flesh distinction, which denies Grace and is frankly apostate from the Faith
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    I take it you just dont want to discuss the post points. Thats fine
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    It is true, you just dont believe it.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    So we know that Christs death wasn't for all without exception when we honestly consider Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Understand, those who had been reconciled to God...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Lets discuss the post. If you want to discuss the incarnation, start a thread on it, I will participate
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Do you understand the post ?
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