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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Usually, I translate consistently, but what I know would change English translations dramatically.
  2. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The angels are the sons of the God. Perhaps, I don't know what you were saying.
  3. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The angels have their own image and design. You speculate but the scriptures don't say no or yes.
  4. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    While it is implied that Angels are made in an image of God, Adam and Eves mankinds are explicitly said to have been. Male and female he created them.
  5. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    ὁ λόγος σὰρξ o logos sarx
  6. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    There is the name of God, who is not a man for this case.
  7. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Saved is not the same as God raising or even waking dead ones.
  8. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I am not one to dare say this. I don't believe that belief is more important obedience for "salvation". There is a way to obey Moses' law without know Christ, Judaism or Christianity.
  9. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    A word of flesh became or happened etc. Yes it did.
  10. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    οὗτος, this word makes sense as something pointing to a similar but different action. The translation is not loose but follows unexpected rules.
  11. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    1:1 Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν. ὁ λόγος 1:2 οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν In the beginning, it was. A word and a word, it was with a God; and the God it was. A word another it was in the beginning with a God.
  12. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Exactly.
  13. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    He still doesn't understand that the Arians believed in the pre-existence of souls... an Origenism. Arius thought people could become sons of God while alive. There are many Church Fathers who believed that there was when the son wasn't. It is not a particularly Arian concept.
  14. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Evertime you think he needs to be Jesus Christ. "I AM a WAY a TRUTH and a LIFE, no one is being [sent] to the FATHER but thru me"
  15. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Perhaps, pattern. Pattern of colors and images associated with a form. Still this doesn't prove your point as you will see later. You have a pattern which shares divine action of God. The English is deceptive, but not disclusive. Actually, the NIV reflects it inaccurately and decides to use a...
  16. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    No, you haven't. You still believe God needs to be a man.
  17. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You realize Mark 7:13 says nothing about the Talmud and may be about a custom rather than tradition.
  18. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    They don't make diagrams of a trinity or venerate phony icons and relics of crosses with Jesus on them calling it god.
  19. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    There was no such thing as oral tradition at that time.
  20. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Jesus said no such thing. Your Jewish friends.