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more on Eph 5:25-27 Lets look more closely at the Love of Christ in this passage, who is it that he Loves ? Is it not His Church, and is that not compared to that of a Husband and wife ? Now to say that Christ loved all people without exception the same and equally, His wife as well as those...

Musing scriptures that clearly set forth the specific intention and objects of Christ death ! Eph 5:25-27 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he...

Post 1271 what does it say ? Lets discuss it ?

The Atonement or Satisfaction of Christ is unlimited in its Geographical extent, the whole world and not just Palestine or ethnic jews, but however it is limited in its purpose to save and effectiveness. God's Purpose of Salvation through Christ is Limited to the seed of Abraham Heb 2:16 For...

Rev 5:9-10 The effectiveness of Christ redemption ! Rev 5:9-10 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And...

The scriptures you quote are true, but I doubt you understand them !

Absolutely false !

His Death was a Propitiation for the sins of those He died for ! 1 Jn 4:10 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. What does this word mean here ? Propitiation, well it is the greek word hilasmos: an appeasing...

Glory in the Cross for redemption ! Gal 6:14 14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. The Cross of Christ did not merely make redemption possible for those He died in behalf of, but it made...

You evaded the Truth, way to go !

This is error as I have been proving from scripture !

more on redemption ! These scriptures have been clear that Christ death was not merely to make redemption[salvation] possible, but to actually redeem them He died for, for God's purpose cannot fail as per Job 42:2 2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden...

To obtain Eternal Redemption for us ! Another stated purpose for the death of Christ is shown here Heb 9:12 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained or procured eternal redemption for us. Note that its a Eternal...

Its important to understand that we are not saved because of our faith, but because of Christs Blood and Gods Grace. Faith is given to realize that !

To reconcile us to God ! Another stated purpose for the death of Christ, God's Son is to reconcile us [ those He died for] to God ! Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. All...

To remove God's Wrath ! Another stated Purpose for Christ Death was to remove or propitiate God's wrath of which it did Rom 3:25 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the...

Stated Purposes of Christ death ! To sanctify and cleanse Eph 5:25-27 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave[died for] himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself...

Stated Purposes of Christ death !2 Another stated Purpose for Christ death is given by Paul here Titus 2:14 14 Who gave himself [That means died] for us, that[in order that] he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. The Purpose of...

Stated Purposes of Christ death ! Here are Stated Purposes of what Christ death is to accomplish on its own merit, hence indicating that if these purposes are not applied to all without exception, then His death could not have been for all without exception, lest He failed of His death's...

You agree with them, did you understand the point I made with them ?