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    The Body vs. The Bride

    Not until Christ returns Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:" The above verse has yet to happen
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    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Where do you see anywhere in scripture where Christ says He's coming to take anyone to Heaven?
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    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Acts 7:38 "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the Angel Which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our father: who received the lively oracles to give unto us."
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    Soul sleep

    Post 239,I gave the source so stop with the accusations...I support what I posted...
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    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    And since you like literal meanings of scripture. Who or what was the Church in the wilderness?
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    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Israel has always been the Church...The nation state of Israel today make up only two tribes ..Two baskets of figs were planted there,the good and the bad...True Judah being Christian ,ie the good figs,where as the bad are those that call themselves Jews but are not.... It has been the...
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    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    John 14:1 "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in Me." John 14:2 "In My Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." Have you ever heard Christians say before, "I have a mansion in the sky"? Friend...
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    Eschatologioal Footing

    Israel never quit being Israel they just don't know who they are.... Matthew 10:6 "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Now does this say "go to the Jews", or "Go to Judah"? No. It says "Go to the lost sheep of the House of Israel". The sons of Judah know where they are...
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    The Body vs. The Bride

    Hello Trek I believe Matt was written for the end time generation,which is us,as per the parable of the fig tree. As for the Church and Israel the 2 can't be seperated,the Jew's make up only 2 tribes,who is Israel?
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    Soul sleep

    What about the Last Day? In one passage Jesus says that He will raise people up "at the last day" (John 6: 39-54). From that passage alone, we would not know whether He meant "the last day of the world" or "the last day of their earthly lives." In a similar way, Jesus says in the previous...
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    Soul sleep

    I believe the resurrection happens at death In ancient Egypt, Pharaohs drove their slaves to build huge pyramids to house their dead bodies. They filled these tombs with immense treasures of gold and all kinds of utensils that might be of service in their coming life. They cultivated the art of...
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    "Hell doesn't last forever"..God is merciful

    I'll use Paul as an example,why did Christ interfere in his (Pauls)life? Being saved does not make you an elect,the elect have already been justified... Think you need to do a study on who are the elect,heck I'll help you Ephesians 1:4 "According as He hath chosen us in Him before the...
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    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Enoch and Elijah were different.. Okay so who are the Jew's,who is the Church,and who are the Gentiles? Definitions on each,as it's very important... The point Im trying to make is ,you are either with God or against Him,and Christ is the only way to Him,no one is special....
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    "Hell doesn't last forever"..God is merciful

    Those are the elect whom were chosen from the foundation of the world...All are not of the elect,being saved does not make you an elect....The elect were justified in the first earth age,all others have free will,and God does not know their choice...
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    "Hell doesn't last forever"..God is merciful

    Unless you are one of the elect,it's your choice to choose life(Christ)or death(satan)... If not us,then who and time here is a waste of time,not to mention cruel... I say that from the point of view that God dosnt know who we will choose....
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    The Body vs. The Bride

    I often ask who was Matt 24 written to,.and I get from rapturist that it was written to the Jew's ,and that is just not true....
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    Eschatologioal Footing

    Hey stranger I agree people are in Heaven,all those who have died as a matter of fact,these are those that Christ brings back with Him at His one and only 2nd coming.... However the only way you all get a rapture is to seperate the Church from Israel,and that just simply not scripture....
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    The Body vs. The Bride

    Reread it,think Im understanding what you're saying....However did not God marry and divorce Israel?So who is Israel?My thoughts is that Israel has always been the Church and the Church is the many membered body ,so I still have to conclude that we are the bride...