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Be careful sister that you do not transfer your trust to a man. When truths are being used as wrapping for a great deception, it is just bait. And it means we are drinking from a tainted well. Some water in there sure, but it's leading to the poison that settles nearer to the bottom. The...

You well know that is not what I'm saying. Insincerity and sarcasm are bad fruit. Here you contradict yourself. Elsewhere you teach that we didn't really receive any free stuff to begin with, saying that the free stuff is only for those who walk in a higher walk. God's purpose is not to...

Mystery Babylon. Now who here resembles that?

Unfortunately Epi, when truth is just used as bait to lead the flock to a great deception, well I just wouldn't want to be in the shoes of those who do that.

Well speaking for myself I don't ignore that verse and have even made mention of it myself, as well as other things. But just that I can't link arms and come into agreement when that and other things are used to back up and lead to what is false. Some here essentially are denying that all ten...

Actually, if I'm not misunderstanding, not just told but revealed. Jesus "told" everyone the same things but not all "saw" or "heard" what He was saying. It is the spiritual things of God which the natural carnal mind can't discern which the Holy Spirit reveals to us. 1Co 2:9-16 But as it...

You don't know me at all Epi. But I recognize your personal attacks and insinuations are your usual deflections.

You mean the walk that he didn't consider he had attained but kept pressing on in the upward call? Sorry but you're all over the place Epi. The whole point is that in humility we should never consider we have arrived but keep pressing on to what lies ahead because there's always more to...

The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD was prophesied in scripture. It was prophesied to happen in the OT and as well Jesus prophesied it, and then it was shown to John, which he wrote down in Revelation, and it did "shortly come to pass" as stated. It was more than a mere blueprint to the...

Already happened in the first century. You would need to check out historical sources for a witness to the awful corruption and abominations of the Temple priesthood in Jerusalem in those days. And the horrible judgments that it all resulted in. But I believe we need to seriously consider...

I think you are right brother. It seems to fit with prophecy as well as what we are seeing take shape in our time. We'll keep watching and see how it goes.

I think this is the best I can express this and hope I'm not misunderstood......When the church becomes apostate, just like Israel/Jerusalem had become apostate and corrupt, it becomes spiritually like a disease ridden harlot, and the people of God are bidden at that point to "come out of her"...

Her too, in a way I believe. And the Vatican has a lot of interest in and owns a lot of real estate in Jerusalem. I wonder if Mystery Babylon in our time has both a Jewish as well as Gentile arm, so to speak, much like how the true church is Jew and Gentile. Just something to keep an eye on...

Yes....if only you were applying this to all who are born again, but I know you are only applying it to some. There is to be no schism in the Body. Anyone who is born again has experienced the power and the heavenly gift....it was a miracle. It just doesn't end there, or shouldn't.

Amen. God's love is not fleshly emotional love. His love speaks the truth in love. It preaches the gospel. It doesnt' jump in the water to flail around in unity with those who are lost and drowning, and drown with them, rather it stays on solid ground and throws in the life preserver that...

Yes, or at the very least to be received even if we don't yet fully understand. To me "mystery" implies spiritual, something spiritual going on out of sight, which trumps facts on the ground as the spiritual is a higher reality.

Ah no Epi. She is a harlot/adulteress remember? Her sin is that of friendship with the world, being in bed with the world, all and sundry....unequally yoked with unbelievers. She welcomes any and all into unity in her embrace and thus is badly compromised. Babylon = Babel. (Which also means...

Just sharing my bits and pieces, and happy to let others weigh it. Only understanding in part and nothing will be confirmed until/unless it actually plays out. I believe "great city" = Jerusalem, and what it represents....it's supposed to represent God's city/kingdom and people, but when it...

The gospel is the mystery of God from the foundation of the world. Eg, it's a mystery how every born again believer has been translated into the kingdom of light and have become the righteousness of Christ. Yes, it's a mystery!

I can't keep up with the whole conversation, but didn't Peter need to be washed of a weakness and error.....when Paul corrected him to his face? That was quite a while after the Spirit was poured out. Yes but we need to learn to walk....we are born into the kingdom as babes and grow into...