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  1. The Light

    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    How can you not see that what you are saying does not agree with scripture? This is just common sense. All you have to do is read it. The Word does not say anything about all seals need to be opened. It says the 1st seal is opened and then come and see what happens. Same thing for the second...
  2. The Light

    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Here is the error which is common for those that believe in a pretrib rapture. You think the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 which I'll post is the coming of Jesus in Zechariah 14. Matthew 24 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth...
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    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    These are just words not supported by any scripture. We can see the 24 elders in heaven with reward crowns so we know Jesus has returned. We see the kings and priest in heaven in Revelation 5. What you claim does not agree with scripture.
  4. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    The point is there are 24 elders in heaven BEFORE the seals are opened. They have reward crowns. That means Jesus has returned for the Church before the seals are opened as we see the kings and priests in heaven that are redeemed out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; The...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Here is the second trumpet and you are correct, there is no star mentioned. Revelation 8 8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the...
  6. The Light

    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Very surprised that you understand this. Few do. Well done.
  7. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    The reason it is not evident is because it's totally incorrect. The Church is in heaven BEFORE the seals are opened. After the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, God deals with Israel. The seals are the time of Jacobs trouble. It is about dealing with Israel and the seed of the woman, which is...
  8. The Light

    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    No. We can prove this is wrong easy enough. You say immediately after the tribulation starts the 1260 days. The Word of God says: Daniel 12 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred...
  9. The Light

    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    I find it odd that you would say God doesn't care about our ideas. You are the one coming up with all the ideas. I'm just readying what the Word says and accepting what it says. I accept the fact that the seals line perfectly with what Jesus says in Matthew 24. The four horsemen of the...
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    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    No sir. It is the second harvest which occurs at the 6th seal before the wrath of God. Gods people are not appointed to wrath. Why can't you just accept what is written. John goes to a lot of trouble to tell you the 144,000 are 12,000 from each tribe. Can't you just accept that? They are the...
  11. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    Sure I did. Here's my quote.... The Day of Lord will not take the brethren by surprise. They will know EXACTLY when He is coming. He will come at the "last trump" THEN THE SEVENTH SEAL IS OPENED AND THE WRATH OF GOD BEGINS. It will be like the days of Lot, where the very day Lot left Sodom...
  12. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    You need to be a little more observant.
  13. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    I just wanted you to note that the 24 elders are in heaven had their reward crowns. That means Jesus has returned and brought His reward. As for the Church.... Revelation 1 4 John to the s even churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which...
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    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    Revelation 4 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. Uhhh, err, ahhhh, mmmm, hmmm, wh wh wh WHAT?
  15. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    The gathering is from heaven and earth, as already proven. Jacob had two brides. He married one and had to work 7 more years for the chosen bride. LOL, YYYeah........
  16. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    Sure. The Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood.
  17. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    I am not ignoring this passage whatsoever. I told you the brethren will know EXACTLY when the day of the Lord and the gathering from heaven and earth will occur. However, that has nothing to do with the rapture of the Church which is already in heaven before the seals are opened. You don't...
  18. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion 2?

    Are you saying it is not 2000 years from Adam to Abraham? How about Abraham to Christ death? 2000 years?