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I am not arguing with you. There is no need to argue. I am merely stating the FACTS of scripture which you are unable to address as the facts speak for themselves. The Lord says that He is coming when you think not. Fact. The Lord says He will send His angels to gather the elect from heaven...

Why are you UNABLE to UNDERSTAND that Jesus returns IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION. AND THEN THE WRATH OF GOD BEGINS?????? It is marked by the cosmic signs of the sun moon and stars. If you want to understand Revelation, we don't need to make anything up. All we have to do is READ WHAT IT...

Those foolish virgins can't seem to get a grip on the facts. Matthew 24 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. You have identified "A" coming of the Lord. In your blindness you can't seem to grasp that you better be ready, because He comes when...

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I liken it to the foolish virgins that will not be ready when He comes as He will come when you think not. Yeah He comes after tribulation, BUT BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD. You think that the tribulation and the wrath of God are same event but...

I did not say He went to the earth. He sends His angels and remains in the clouds at the 6th seal second coming. Matt 24 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. No, you...

Exactly. Please show me a post where I have said differently. You won't find one because I understand that the tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins. This is why the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is the second coming at the 6th seal. Immediately after the tribulation the sun is...

I'll be happy to settle for one verse if that's possible. Zechariah 9 9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. 10 And I will...

Could you please post the verses that prove this? Also do you realize that according to you, the Church will be going through the wrath of God. According to the Word, the Church is not going through the wrath of God. 1 Thes 5 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation...

Proving what you are saying is wrong is a simple task. Just by posting scripture and letting scripture speak for itself, proves what you are saying is incorrect. Ignoring what is written is the problem. The ignorance that Paul warns us about. So you think that there is only one coming of Jesus...

Translation - I am afraid because this brother does not have to make anything up to prove me wrong. He has already proven that it is impossible for the coming of Jesus at the sixth seal to be the same coming of Jesus at the 7th trumpet. My world and beliefs are completely shaken by the inerrant...

Obviously, you don't have a clue that I know exactly what you are talking about. I use the word Jew, as it is all inclusive. Obviously, it is the seed of the woman that is hunted when the dragon can't get to those in the nation of Israel that have fled. Obviously the seed of the woman, Israel...

So your point is that you don't understand that none of the trumpets can happen until the 7th seal is opened, which makes it impossible for the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal to be the coming of Jesus at the 7th trumpet. What you are saying is impossible and does not agree with scripture. I...

The second coming and a rapture happen at the 6th seal. It's not the Church being raptured as the Church is raptured before the seals are opened.

How is it that you are unable to understand that the tribulation if OVER at the 6th seal? There it is, cut and dried, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION we have the cosmic signs of the sun, moon and stars. THAT OCCURS AT THE 6TH SEAL, not at the 7th trumpet of God's wrath. If you could force...

No, I didn't misunderstand Paul. Sure there were Jews that accepted the Gospel. The early Church was Jews as Jesus was sent to the Jews. But they did not accept him...for the most part. You yourself quoted the verse that says they will be like the sands of the sea. You seem to want to toss out...

Exactly. This is the seed of the woman that we see in Rev 12 Rev 12 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Those Jews still have their blindness. It will not be...

When we realize that the seals are the 70th week of Daniel, and realize that the 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel, it becomes obvious that the seals are not opened. The beginning of sorrows is right around the corner. Have you seen wars and rumors of wars, the beginning of...

I'm kinda missing what the problem is. Israel is the woman so what you are saying is incorrect. Additionally Jacob had two brides. Leah and the chosen bride Rachel, even as Christ will have two brides.

Sure Daniel and Revelation are the same. But you are not getting it. There are two different people being discussed. In Daniel, the little horn who is the Antichrist is not the same person as the prince that shall come whose people shall destroy the temple. Also we can prove that the false...

You assume that I am assuming. The 7th king has yet to come. The 7th king is AN Antichrist who will cause the world to worship, THE ANTICHRIST, who is the eighth king who is of the seven. The rider on the white horse is the 7th king. He is the beast coming up out of the earth. He is also a king...