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Early Church writings? Can you give some examples?

Then explain the problem you seem to have with Christ-ordained Church hierarchy.

You keep ignorantly saying that “Bishop” is not a Scriptural term because you don’t understand languages and etymology. I HATE to be the one to break this to you but the Bible wasn’t written in English. The word we see over and over in the NT is “Episkopos”, which is the root word from which...

I think it’s even MORE naïve to assume that some documents were “burned” because they didn’t agree with Catholic doctrine. As I pointed out – we have MANY documents with conflicting opinions – but NO evidence of “burned” documents.. As to your ongoing problem with Bishops and Fathers –...

“Exactly” – what?? As I already showed you - having a Church hierarchy is prescribed by SCRIPTURE (1 Thess. 5:12, 2 Thess. 2:15, 1 Tim. 5:17, 1 Cor. 12:28). It’s not a case of people “lording” anything over anybody. Your leaderless model for Christ’s Church is both illogical and unscriptural.

That’s NOT what I said at all. I simply stated that YOUR assumption that the Catholic Church “burned” those writings from the Early Church because they didn’t agree with Catholic doctrine is ludicrous – and completely unsubstantiated. I even gave you examples of men like Tertullian and Origen...

WRONG. Matt. 23:9 is NOT about not calling anybody “Father”. If that were the case – then God is a hypocrite because He commanded us to “Honor you FATHER and mother” (Exod. 20:12). Jesus was simply making the point that the people were not to consider any man a Father – ABOVE our Father in...

First of all - I'm glad that you're happy with the socialist politics of your country. I'm glad that you enjoy being so heavily-taxed for your hard work and having your hard-earned money given to those who refuse to work. And if you like it so much - stay there. Nobody is begging you to come...

God is my Father. My earthly Father is buried at a local cemetery. The Priests of Christ's Church, including the Pope ar also spiritual Fathers - just as Paul was a spiritual Father to his congregations: 1 Cor. 4:14–15 For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel" I'm sure you...

First of all - nobody called you "ignorant" - so calm down. Secondly - history is history - warts and all. The writings of the Early church Fathers exist - even the ones that DON'T agree with Catholic doctrine. Nobody "burned" them - so your charge is patently false.. There were debates and...

This kind of cavalier attitude toward the Early Church shows real contempt for the Holy Spirit. It’s reminiscent of the idiocy going on all around us right now with all of the historical revisionism and iconoclasm. If it weren’t for the Holy Spirit working through THEM – YOU wouldn’t have a...

What happened?

WHERE do you guys get your information?? We have VOLUMES of writings from the Early Curch Fathers. I think problem is that the the both of you simply haven't looked . . .

Yes - the writings of Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch are very important because he was a disciples of the Apostle John. On his way to Rome to be martyred, he wrote 7 Letters – ALL of which can be found online. In his Letter to the Smyrnaeans, he gives a window into how the 1st century Church was...

That's the most asinine explanation I've ever heard - and makes absolutely zero sense. A cross - right side UP or DOWN will hhold the same amout of weight.

It's NOT about being "born again" several times. It's about forgiveness. You don't requires forgiveness only ONCE in your life - but EVERY time you sin. That's why Jesus told Peter that he must for give his brother SEVENTY times SEVEN times. In other words - INFINITE forgiveness, like God has...

Then YOU don't believe in the forgiveness of Christ. ANY liar, thief, rapist, murderer, etc. can be forgiven by repenting and coming to Christ. We don't get to sin - then pretend we didn't . . .

No - I never "condemned" you so stop being so dramatic and have faith. I simply pointed out the fact that you lied. Do you believe that you can be forgiven? I certainly do, so nobody is "condemning" you. Just don't do it anymore.

WHY do you have to keep rehashing this? I already proved this back in post #176, when I showed you the following: LIE #1 Diotrephes was NOT the first Pope. Peter was – and Irenaeus lists him as such in his 2nd century treatise, Against Heresies. LIE #2 Constantine was NOT the first Pope. As a...

More proof that you're not a Catholic - especially a Traditional Catholic.. According to Scripture and Tradition, Peter's cross was turned upside-down. Jesus told Peter that as an old man somebody would "stretch out your hands" (John 21:18), describing his manner of death. In the book, The...