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I think there's a problem in Christianity in understanding what the law or works is referring to. People, for teachings of the past 50 years or so, have learned to dislike the word WORKS/DEEDS. So half of the N.T. gets thrown out. Even Revelation 21:27 states that nothing unclean will enter...

Paul is writing to Timothy about Christians..... You say 2 Timothy 2:12b is speaking about non-Christians? You're the first person I've ever heard say this. In all of chapter 2 of 2 Timothy Paul is speaking about born again believers in Jesus....Including verse 11.......if we die with Him we...

Why have you turned this into a personal conversation? I posted scripture and spoke about that scripture. Why not respond to that? Of course you can't speak about me...I don't even want you to. Did I say something personal about you? I'm not going back to read it...I don't think so, but if I...

Hi bb I know what you mean...it's interesting. You CANNOT sin. Not meaning YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SIN... but meaning YOU BETTER NOT SIN. checking my Ital bible.... It would seem to have to do with ability. I always thought it had to do with the sin nature AND living a life of sin (rather than...

1 Corinthians 2:14 is for non-believers. Do you feel like everyone here is a natural man except for you? Do you believe only you have the truth and no one else? What do you think Christianity believed before 1,500AD?

I'm not saying God's will is like our own.... We have attributes like God has because He created us in His image... That doesn't mean we are little gods. Compatibilist free will is no free will because God decides for us what we are to want. I'd like to clear this up since it seems you'll be...

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Great post. If God is Love,,,, Calvinism cannot be right. A loving God will not create some specifically for the purpose of going to hell. But, gee, maybe it's US that don't understand. You see, WE ARE ALL EVIL and should be going to hell... So God is loving because He picked some of us to go...

A very clear answer. If I may,,, the way you explain libertarian free will is also how it's understood in theology and not only philosophy. It is a choice that is made without outside influence. And you're right, of course, every decision we make is influenced by something. I'd like to offer...

Hey JC, Welcome to the forum. We have a nice variety of persons here and I hope you like it. I agree fully that those who are chosen were foreknown. The bible also speaks of the elect and I see two types of elect persons. Trying to reconcile God's Sovereignty with the free will He gave us and...

Gee. I think I agree with you... but instead of jumping at what I asked... Why not answer my question?? What does THE LAW mean to you? Also, you write too much.... Could you shrink it down and could you not make it personal? That would be nice.

The N.T. speaks of the elect and it speaks of the chosen. At times the elect means the Hebrews/Jews through whom salvation was announced and through whom God revealed Himself. At times it just plainly means the elect,,,,the chose,,,,US, the born again believers. In this case it means us....but...

Hi M, Welcome to the forum. What do you mean by the law? As born again Christians we are not under the law but under grace. This does NOT mean that we are not to obey God. God has always wanted our obedience. We are now under grace.... Purchased back from satan by Jesus... This would fall...

A, sometimes I wish we could really treat each other like intelligent human beings. You use the word "slavery" to try to make a point about context. There's no problem with context here. You just need to be honest.... As you very well know,,,we are NOT slaves to God....we are His friends, His...

Jesus said to get baptized and we should be baptized. I'm not certain that because someone has not been baptized it means they're going to hell. Being born of above seems to me to be the criteria necessary for salvation. There is a baptism of desire which means that a person wants to be...

We don't speak past each other...you just don't care for what I have to say. Where does scripture say that we CHOOSE to be saved? Romans 6:16 16Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting...

HI DS... Romans 8:1 I see your point....One version says that we are not to walk after the flesh but after the spirit...the other bible stops at there is now no condemnation to them which are IN CHRIST Jesus. But is that the ONLY verse a believer will be reading and hearing in church? NO...

I'll give you one reason GH, I've read the Early Church Fathers that are not appreciated enough in our time. However, they were taught by the Apostles and knew some of them personally and studied with them. So,,,they NEVER could have believed the strange beliefs we have nowadays. They ASSUMED...

You dislike answering me. But I can still write to YOU. We follow who we CHOOSE to follow. As you know A,,,your problem is that you don't believe in free will. FIRST We hear His voice. SECOND We CHOOSE Jesus as our shepherd and so He KNOWS US. THIRD We follow Him BECAUSE we have CHOSEN Him...

From what you've written above, it makes me wonder if we shouldn't be "eating" the body of Christ like the Catholics believe. Interesting point.