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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    What are you intending to say here exactly? I'm trying to figure out how your comment here relates to what WPM said. What he was asking about that Premills should answer is when does the bodily redemption of those who die during the supposed future thousand years occur and where does scripture...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    This makes a lot of sense, so I might need to reconsider how I present my view of that passage. I normally say that it's figuratively referring to a 100 year old as being a child, reflecting that even after 100 years in eternity (if there was time in eternity) then a person would still be...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I ignore nothing. Premills say "Yes, but..." all the time. Yes, but nothing. I allow scripture to tell me when Jesus reigns and when we are His priests and scripture says that time began at His resurrection. Scripture says He reigns now and we are His priests now (1 Peter 2:9, Rev 1:5-6). Why do...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    The point was that at the time Paul was writing that letter God's people in Israel that He foreknew were the elect remnant who believed at that time and not the rest who were blinded. And, of course, Gentiles who believe are His people as well. His people are those who have faith. It's not based...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    You mean you thought about how you could change the verse to fit your doctrine. That's not what it says. It says the child will die at 100 years old, meaning it's saying a person would still be a child even at 100 at that point which figuratively represents eternity when no one will age. In the...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Again, the Bible was not written in English. Just because a word here and there is not translated as well as it should have been doesn't mean His word hasn't been preserved. Just a bit of discernment can overcome the few mistranslations of words here and there. The stance you're taking here...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Look for sin and errors? What are you talking about? I'm talking about being aware of things like this that happen just before Jesus returns at the end of the age.... Matthew 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus and Peter taught that the earth will be destroyed unexpectedly on the day Jesus returns just as the earth was destroyed in Noah's day

    Why is it that you can't see that the scoffers of the last days who were clueless about what was coming are just like those who are eating, drinking and marrying that Jesus referred to in the days before His second coming? Why can't you see that the destruction that Jesus talked about and...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus and Peter taught that the earth will be destroyed unexpectedly on the day Jesus returns just as the earth was destroyed in Noah's day

    @CadyandZoe What is the reason that you decided to just quote scripture without any commentary? What purpose does that serve? What do you mean "the Hebrew people are already gathered to witness the Son of Man coming on the clouds"? I agree that this refers to the rapture of the church...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Amillennialism is an obsolete and outdated eschatological fabrication.

    No, no, no. No. That's not what I'm saying. I'm telling you, man, your reading comprehension skills are non-existent. It's kind of concerning, honestly. You may need to get checked out to see what causes that. I specifically said "Right, and do you agree that this has been the case for the past...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    Your arguments from silence are not valid. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 is not symbolic like Revelation 19:11-21 is, so there's no reason to think it would mention white horses there. And, Revelation 19:11-21 says nothing about Christ coming to earth. Do you think that there are any other passages...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    Such a simple truth, yet pretribs don't understand it at all. They make what is simple very convoluted instead.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I fully agree with what you described here, but it is a concept that Premills do not understand at all. And that is a big reason why they are Premills. You can't be a Premill while using clearer and simpler passages to interpret more difficult passages since the clearer and simpler passages...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Ezekiel 43:9 Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever. 10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern. 11 And if...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Are you not aware that Jesus reigns now and that we are His priests now? 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Revelation 1:5...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    Not when it comes to end times scriptures. Based on things you've said, we disagree on a lot more things than we can agree on when it comes to that. Did you mean to say that the other way around? I don't claim that there was a new heavens and new earth at the time of the flood, I claim that the...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    Everyone here can see that you're dodging my question. Do you believe that we are in Christ's spiritual kingdom right now? Is He your King right now? Scripture teaches that the souls of dead people have consciousness (Luke 16:19-31, Rev 6:9-11, Mark 9:1-4, Mark 12:26-27). Why are you dodging...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus and Peter taught that the earth will be destroyed unexpectedly on the day Jesus returns just as the earth was destroyed in Noah's day

    LOL. Here's one other thing you should pray for. Patience. I wasn't done responding to your posts. I just responded to one of them where I answered your questions.