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The NT church looks nothing like a catholic mass. There is not one iota if any gathering which even resembles it

Using this line of reasoning Jesus was a false messiah and the Jewish leaders who had Gods law 4 2000 years is right

Amen bro.

Like Jesus said it is the will of God that all who see and BELIEVE will have eternal life (john 6) you can’t have election as being the will of god when you remove faith from the Equation

That’s great!

I love to discuss also, hopefully tong is not one who will Falsely accuse and blame shift when he does not get his way,

this is what I mean about Peter here never changing, you take a simple concept, and a simple discussion, and he takes this simple concept and blows it out of proportion and makes it seem like it is a huge undertaking and we have to do this and that and everything else Oh and he inserts what he...

I have come to realise many of them can be just as bad as many of the Catholics and sadly have also learned trying to discuss anything is fruitless

So did this go from a Eucharist debate to a Calvinist debate

So God need you to help him save you? You think to highly of yourself man. There is not one ounce of work you can do to get a god to forgive you if one sin. Let alone all the ones you have committed since birth but as usual. You think otherwise and is. You have not change Concerning the...

Actually John answers this question they were never if ya for if they were if ya they never would have departed

Peter! Long time no see! I see you have not changed a bit anyone with any sense would realize that she has to many I’d salvation is not what can I do For you god. It’s what Can you do for Me! When you add I to the equation you are admitting god needs your help

Amen, John 6 is the poster chapter for eternal security. sadly they have mocked God and turned it into a flesh and blood communion/eucharist Ceremony that does not give the one who does what Jesus said anything he promised

Sadly the words never, eternal, everlasting and forever have different meanings to them

You have too many I’s When you repent and become like the tax collector and fall on your knees. Or as Jesus said, became poor in spirit (literally spiritually bankrupt) then YOU will understand the spirit, you say your not saved by works (what you do) yet you continue to say I must I do, I I...

Listen to what you said you have eternal life as long as you abide and you obey your trying to earn a reward not receive a gift

I do not believe in anything goes OSAS also does not teach this. This is your fabrication of what we believe

Thought that happened when God adopts us

Or I am Conditionally grateful based on certain parameters

Yep. And also all the people who wrote it. John said we can know we have it and on the basis of this fact continue to have faith