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    God's Favor?

    So you too admit that if the rapist is commanded to marry his victim, this sounds evil?
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    God's Favor?

    Nope. This is patently false. But nice try. We would only have this law today if women were still as oppressed as they once were :) But it's quite curious how God could not think of anything better, than to command the rapist to marry her.
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    God's Favor?

    There's a difference between instead choosing to preach, verses, engaging the actual conversation. I'll give you a second chance to actually engage, from post #53: Can you please acknowledge what MY OP actually says, as well as post #32? If you are a single virgin, and are raped, coerced...
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    God's Favor?

    Um, I'm completely aware that many of God's law's have now been overridden. Such as, but not limited to: gay marriage, the complete outlaw of slavery, etc... I'm guessing you concede what I have stated prior now? (i.e.) When God's created law was active, (via Deut. 22:28-29), a rapist could...
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    God's Favor?

    V25 speaks about engaged women. V28 speaks about single virgin women. V28 neither mentions her consent, nor her lack there-of. Many translations use the word "rape", "seize", and other. If these translations were under the impression V28 was only speaking about complete consent, then I...
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    God's Favor?

    You are not engaging my requests. You be-bop and skit-skat all around them. Recap: - During OT times, a man would only marry a women whom was a confirmed virgin. - If she was not a virgin, no man would marry her. - In OT times, a woman could not support herself. She needed a man. - Her...
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    God's Favor?

    My purpose, in this thread, is to broach a very specific topic. And yet, rather than address this very specific topic, you dance all around it... Tisk tisk... If you merely want to only pick and choose which parts of the Bible you address, while ignoring others, then please start labeling...
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    God's Favor?

    Fine, you disagree. But you have not demonstrated why you disagree. You either need to: a: Demonstrate why the NIV, and others, is/are grossly incompetent in their translation. b: Demonstrate that the NIV, and others, is/are being deliberately deceptive. c: Other? Are you claiming Verse 28...
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    God's Favor?

    Great, reading the Verses in context, we see the following... V25 deals with betrothed/married. They are already spoken for... V28-29 speaks about single virgin females. I cannot repeat this enough, because you guys seem to want to gloss over this point. Please pay careful attention to...
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    God's Favor?

    Your responses continue to vex me? You state you do not want to engage, while engaging...? I'm not concerned about if you follow dispensationalism, or, if you ascribe more-so to covenant based theology. When this law was written, women were only valuable for marriage if the female was noted...
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    God's Favor?

    Yea, it will go nowhere, if you do not actually engage. I'll take your lack in response as a complete concession. But just to recap... --- You would not state "No man can understand the mind of God..." if someone provides a Verse you agree with or like. -- Simply avoiding what the Verse...
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    God's Favor?

    If you disagree that Scripture tells the reader that [the rapist is ordered to marry his victim], please come with your counter argument. Otherwise, you have no existing case; other than "nuh-uh"!
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    God's Favor?

    I'm going to, in part, tell you the same thing I told @TLHKAJ ... 1. The NIV, along with other translations, use the Word 'rape'. Such a Word would likely not be used if such an act was considered full consent on her part. Thus, if the NIV, and other translations, are in error, this would...
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    God's Favor?

    Your answer seems quite "convenient"; when one comes across a Verse, which looks to raise an eyebrow for the reader ;) What if I were to ask you what John 3:16 means? Would you give the same answer there too? I've already laid forth a reason. If a woman was raped, she no longer served value...
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    God's Favor?

    "28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." The rapist is prosecuted. He...
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    God's Favor?

    Say a man likes a girl, but the girl does not like him. Say she is a "well behaved, dutiful, attractive, upstanding character, talented in chores/sewing, and godly virgin". Say he rapes her. God's favor looks to have her (possibly) legally bound to him, by marriage, right?
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    God's Favor?

    Regardless of how one spins it... If such a specific occurrence were to transpire, God's rule looks to have been as follows, right? A: The male pays the father and then leaves. For which he is able to rinse/repeat again with another female virgin who is not betrothed. B: The male pays the...
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    God's Favor?

    Regardless of if the Words are from God or not, do we at least agree on what these Words specify in Deut. 22:28-29?
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    God's Favor?

    So God did not author or inspire Deut. 22:28-29?
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    God's Favor?

    If you do not wish to engage, then just don't engage. ;) My topic is a very specific request, to discuss a very specific scenario; for which God looks to have weighed in upon? The topic involves the raping of single female virgins, and how to handle the situation... If it looks too messy for...