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  1. Elf

    End Time views

    (harv;44615) As I study the Bible and its prophecies with regard to "the time of the end" as expressed by descriptive outline under the different symbols of both Daniel and Revelation it has become my understanding that the proper placement of the times cited from each of these books are...
  2. Elf

    End Time views

    (arniem;44354) 1 Thessalonians 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. (arniem;44155) I have never once used Matthew 24 or Daniel 12 on this forum .As far as the Church in revelation , it is not...
  3. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (kriss;44068) The problem I find with this doctrine is that everyone trys to make it one or the other Thats not the doctrine, thats the people.
  4. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (kriss;44105) As I said above I think it is indeed both but I do not believe anyone other than Satan is condemed to hell I think in the End free will wins out even over predestined just as the example of Paul he could have still exercised his free will and denied Christs willingly although...
  5. Elf

    End Time views

    (arniem;43986) Jesus said he would reign for a thousand years. Your issue is with what he said . Not with what I said. Scripture please! And in the context, show me where it says He will reign on earth for 1000 years...By scripture show me why it is necessary for Christ to reign on this earth...
  6. Elf

    End Time views

    (arniem;43986) Jesus said he would reign for a thousand years. Your issue is with what he said . Not with what I said. I don't have an issue with what you said, Believe what you want, your entitled. Only thing I have an issue with is, you want me to give you answers, and I do..With scriptures...
  7. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    People have always tried to change the meaning of God's word, but the fact remains, God's word don't change. Here is a friend on another forum, Ill let his post shed some light on this free will thing: Tim Keller has a good take on predestination/election from his Q&A sessions (check out the...
  8. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (kriss;44068) The problem I find with this doctrine is that everyone trys to make it one or the other in a way I kind of agree with Tim it is Both there is predestination but it does not rule out free will nor vise versa The Bible says that we have the free will choice – all we have to do is...
  9. Elf

    Doubting my faith

    (waynemlj;44090) Hi kriss,It would be better if you believed in the eternal hell that Jesus teaches. You do find a way to teach a different gospel.Matthew 25:41-46, "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels . ...
  10. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (Morning_Joy;44061) Elf--Could we message each other about this? Yes, sure.
  11. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (Morning_Joy;44055) Elf--Did you consider the question I previously posted?Does limited atonement teach that everyone else out of the elect are doomed the moment they are born? Yes, look back you will find it.
  12. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (Denver;44047) II Peter 3 2 Peter 3:9, The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.Again, words do have limits to their meanings by context! Do you agree? Who is Peter writing to...
  13. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (tim_from_pa;44037) Elf, I agree with you and know where you are coming from. I do believe in predestination (God's sovereignty). However, before the free choicers chime in some more, let me say this. God works in eternity where there is no time or space as we know it, and we work in the...
  14. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (tim_from_pa;44037) Elf, I agree with you and know where you are coming from. I do believe in predestination (God's sovereignty). However, before the free choicers chime in some more, let me say this. God works in eternity where there is no time or space as we know it, and we work in the...
  15. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (Alanforchrist;43953) [1] You quoted, "No man can come to Jesus unless the Father draws him" Jn 6:44.But in Jn 12: 32, Jesus said, "If I am lifted up I will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME".God draws all people, and them that are open to His calling will come.[2]If you think Predestined in Romans 8: 29...
  16. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    Ok, back to the beginning. First by my explanation I in no way intend to insult you, you are entirely entitled to your opinion and belief. And I respect your belief. (Alanforchrist;43953) [1] You quoted, "No man can come to Jesus unless the Father draws him" Jn 6:44.But in Jn 12: 32, Jesus...
  17. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    Interesting, let me answer this part first. God commands us to preach the gospel to all, As in, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."This does not even say that God wants to save all...
  18. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    (zadzial;43949) What is your definition of "free will"? Is it not that one is free to choose without any external influences? You have said as much in your post. So let me ask then, does a slave have free will? Of course not. "Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a...
  19. Elf

    Whats the meaning?

    Can anyone explain the meanings of these verses? John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.Jeremiah 31:3 The LORD appeared to him from afar, saying, "I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore I...
  20. Elf

    the Elect

    (Jon-Marc;43906) I can't understand why anyone would believe in a God who shows favoritism by rejecting some while saving others. There are scriptures that show that God wants everyone to be saved, but unfortunately not everyone will accept Him. What scriptures?