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    2020 Vision

    Excellent post, Evanom. We are "his people" indeed, all of us who believe in Yeshua and obey his commandments! I've just in the past year started observing the Sabbath and Feasts of our Almighty Yahweh (as Yeshua did and all the early apostles and believers, until the CAtholic...
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    The Woman And The 144,000

    Hi Guy, I think the woman (her seed/those of promise aka "Israel" as in followers of Yahweh who obey his commandments and believe in Yeshua) represents the believers in Yeshua, and among them will be the 144,000, who will in a sense be the "leaders" of the rest of us, if we are chosen to...
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    The True Mark Of The Beast?

    The mark could be anything...we do not know what it will be, but I agree that those close to Yahweh will discern. Many who think they are close, may not..."even the elect" may be deceived. This is why I think it will be something very sly, that even many "Christians" will THINK is ok. Such...
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    The Calling of the 144,000

    Interesting discussion! I believe that Yahweh will gather those "servants of YHWH" (Rev. 7:3) that 1) follow Yahweh's commandments, and 2) remain faithful to Yeshua. (Rev. 14:12)...and they will be gathered as Christina said, from wherever they are...and taken to the Holy City (AFTER it has...
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    The Destruction of the USA

    I agree we shouldn't ONLY be talking gloom and doom and judgement. But I tend to think in general that the church as a whole is tilted too far in the "everything's ok" mindset. If you read the NT, Paul and Jesus and the others writings are full of reprimands and guidance on how to follow Christ...
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    The Destruction of the USA

    Hi Brother Mike, Very sweet to call my statements ignorant, thanks. You totally missed the point, I never said that there are not some GREAT churches out there doing awesome work for God! You may be blessed to be in a truly alive, active, generous church...and there certainly are many of those...
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    Moving to Zion?

    I've read some people talking about how we should move to Zion/Jerusalem so that we are there during the tribulation. Can someone explain to me why, and if a person decides they should do this...how would they? I mean, it's not as if there are tons of jobs in Israel! Just curious about...
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    The Destruction of the USA

    Well, as I said, I lost my first response, and don't have time to re-write it all now. Basically though, these are my thoughts: While Cliff could have been more humble in his approach, I don't think it's wise to just outright discount what he says until we know he is not a prophet. Problem is...
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    The Destruction of the USA

    Testing...I just wrote a long response, and when I submitted it, it was lost. grrrr...
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    Are we on our way to the GWT?

    (jeffweeder;52380) What is the purpose of the millenium? Whats it for?If Christ is visible in the world, is it still possible to be saved?Can we have faith in something we see?Ive posted many scriptures that support the fact that when Christ comes, its a day of eternal Judgement for the wicked...
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    70 weeks

    Eliyahu,thanks for all of your responses. I've been off the internet for awhile, and I really need some time to put my thoughts together on this topic. Let me just say that what I'm talking about is not replacement theology, or saying God does not still love the Jews or see them as different...
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    Instructed to “Flee,” why stage in Judea?

    (kriss;51519) And Liz as far as the temple it is a future temple in the millieium You are assuming he is talking animal sacrafice when in fact Christ was the ultimate sacrafice, I believe this will be symbolic to remember forever that Christ died for our sins and became the final sacrafice for...
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    Instructed to “Flee,” why stage in Judea?

    hi there, i've been off the internet for a bit, need to catch up on here!thanks for answering about ezekiel...it does sound like future armageddon, but then right afterwards it goes on for many chapters about how to build the new temple, complete with altars and sacrifice rooms etc...so I just...
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    Instructed to “Flee,” why stage in Judea?

    (jeffweeder;50872) Good morning LizI dont discount Rev.I believe the Millenium is not 1000 lit years, but symbolic of the new birth.Those who overcome will not be hurt by the second death.Those that take part in the first ressurection will not be hurt by the second death.Those that believe the...
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    70 weeks

    (thesuperjag;50842) This 7 year tribulation has been told in Daniel (so pretty sure, but I can't quote scripture) but Christ definately have been shortened to 5 months. (Matthew 24:22, Revelation 9:10) Everything in Daniel that talks about a "7 year tribulation" is extrapolated from the passages...
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    70 weeks

    (eliyahu;50843) I found a pretty good link about this http://focusonjerusalem.com/embarkingupont...obstrouble.htmlThere is a very significant dimension to this whole thing that is not really touched in the article though. It is the relationship of the church to Israel both now and in the future...
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    70 weeks

    (eliyahu;50841) I read your last post and I think you are asking a great q . I believe that you may consider the "time of Jacob's trouble" in Jer 30:6 is still future, because "all Israel" is not saved yet. The majority of Israel is still under the law's curse, as history bears witness to. The...
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    70 weeks

    (eliyahu;50837) I also am convinced that the 70th week was fulfilled during Christ's ministry. But is an incredibly far leap to say that there is no future "tribulation" just because this one point most premillenialists lean on and emphasize is wrong. Having the 70th week in the past does not...
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    70 weeks

    First of all, Daniel wrote this around 530BC, that is so long before Christ, and the temple was just being rebuilt and then the people would be going back from exile etc. So it is looking forward to the coming of the messiah.Daniel 9:24 (ESV)Seventy weeks are decreed about your people, and your...
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    70 weeks

    (kriss;50775) All questions are welcome post as many as you like heres a good site that might help you with this http://endtimepilgrim.org/70wks7.htm I checked out the site, and I found it interesting, especially the idea of Hos. 6:2 and the "two days" being 2000 years, and the "3rd day" being...