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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Come back when you've got something. :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Tell them that. Then tell us what they tell you. :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Why are you ignoring those Scriptures?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Waiting for you, posts 343, 363. :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    To be completely literally true to Scripture, a futurized re-fulfillment of the Olivet Discourse necessitates a complete literal identical re-creation and re-incarnation of everything and everyone described in the associated passages in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. Anything else is presumption...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    But in both passages, Christ is addressing His disciples and His audience, who would experience what we now know as the "past", i.e. 70 AD, scenario; as "ye" and "you". Who are "ye" and "you" according to Scripture in your "future" scenario? Will Christ be reincarnating His disciples and...
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    If you're unaware that historical orthodox Christianity pre-dates "roman Catholic teaching", then you've unequivocally confirmed the abject ignorance of your modernist revisionist dispensatanist cultism. Why would the blind ask the blind? As a denier of the fulfilled reality of Christ's New...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Past or future?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    What about Luke 21:21 and Matthew 24:16? Do they involve the same events in the same era of time?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Whom to believe? 1. You 2. Luke Need a hint? :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes, and He'll be coming again in the future to destroy Babylon. :laughing: Isaiah 13 1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see. 10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The AOD was the Roman armies. Luke 21:20 Luke 21:20 was fulfilled in 70 AD.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    They had the New Covenant, not the promise of the New Covenant. As we do too. "Promise" does not appear in Matthew 26:28. "Is" appears in Matthew 26:28. Heaven is my heritage. Sorry about you.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Provide just one example from pre-1800 historical orthodox Christianity which concurs with that claim. Just one example. You also refuse to tell us if you partake of the Lord's Supper. Why?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I've shown how Matthew 24:15,16 were fulfilled. Which prophecy are you referring to?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It would have been too late for the Christians to flee if they had waited until the Roman army occupied the Temple. Rather, they recognized Jesus' reference to the holy place to be city itself, specifically, its environs, as @grafted branch has shown. This gave the Christians sufficient...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Interesting confirmation; thanks.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Matthew 24:15. The abomination of desolation, i.e. Roman armies, would be seen by Jesus' disciples. It would be standing in the holy place, the holy city of Jerusalem. Both fulfilled.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The abomination of desolation was the Roman armies. Luke 21:20
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Did Jesus' disciples experience both His Salvation and His New Covenant? Did they have to wait for the Holy Land?
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