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    Use Not this verse : 1 John 1:9...if you are born again.

    This is a good post, however it is not only applicable to the works of believers, but also unbelievers: Here are a few scriptures to validate this: 1Co 5:3 For I verily, being absent in body but present in spirit, have already as though I were present judged him that hath so wrought this...
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    Use Not this verse : 1 John 1:9...if you are born again.

    I would agree that those born of God are "in Christ". However, all things are "in Christ". For "each one of us" live, move and have our being "in Him". All of humanity was created "in Christ" and "unto/for" Christ: Act 17:27 that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    This was actually Karl Barth's position too. Barth realized that when using the term "persons", it carried with it the idea that each "person" within the Trinity had their own "attribute of self-consciousness". And this idea was not the theological understanding of the early church fathers or...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    I think that's getting closer, and I considered that one too, though the term "being" is actually with reference to a "human being": 3. A living, self-conscious being, as distinct from an animal or a thing; a moral agent; a human being; a man, woman, or child. All of these examples can be...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    I think the Corporation identity for the Godhead is really better than using the term "persons". Just my preference though.
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    The OT tells us that God is not a man or human being (Num 23:19, 1Sa 15:29). And by that definition, God is not a "person". At least not in the sense of how we think of the word "person" or how the Merriam-Webster dictionary describes a "person": Definition of person 1 : human, individual...
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    Did Jesus die on Friday?

    Another way "three days and three nights" can be understood is by using the Greek copula "καί" that connects the two phrases "three days and (Gk: "καί") three nights", as an explicative copula having the meaning of "three days, even three nights". The clarifying phrase "three nights" being...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    You have to understand the single owner Corporation concept. One person with separate and distinct offices/titles.
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Within the Corporate structure of the Godhead, the prayer occurs between two separate and distinct Officers (Father and Son), and consequently, Jesus (first person) addresses the Father as "You" (second person). However, both Officers (Father and Son) are the same God/Lord.
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Thanks for the kindness... I don't doubt your sincerity. And, if what you believe is what the Spirit of Christ has shown you, than go with it. For myself, I received a different revelation, but it took years for me to understand it. Shortly after calling on Jesus for salvation (I was 17...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Well, because people often become angry/depressed and grief stricken after losing a spouse. Especially if it occurs later in life. That grief can often be projected onto others, loved ones in particular, without knowing it. Not necessarily intentionally, but as a coping mechanism until the...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    I'm not sure what that symbol means, but OK, if not, that's great! Back to the thread...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Why would I accept something that is not true? The Holy Spirit guards me against such things. I rely on His witness within me. On a side note: You come across this forum as an angry person. Perhaps an elderly person who might have lost his/her spouse. Are you by chance in this condition?
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Yes I did read it, and none of it was convincing, particularly in light of what Jesus said in Mar 12:29.
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    I've already dealt with all your criticisms in post #11 and #52.
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Can you explain why it has to be "plural persons", and it must be so without exception? I've read your posts in this thread and the other threads you've linked to. Every scripture you've supplied so far can be understood within the framework of a single owner Corporation concept. And in so...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Do you understand the concept of a single owner/person corporation? You might not have them in the UK. If I recall, the UK only has single owner businesses as Sole Trader, unincorporated.
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    It is plural, there is really no question about that. The question is: plural what? Instead of thinking of the Godhead as plural persons, think of the Godhead like a Corporation. A single owner Corporation. If we explore this Corporation further, the single owner Corporation consists of...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    I think you're rather the one confused here...lol You stated the trinity as being: "one Godhead in three persons". That is quite different than the dictionary's: "three persons in one Godhead". Don't you think? For instance, if I say: All things are in Christ (Col 1:16, Act 17:28) which is...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    The LXX need not have been directly inspired by God to convey truths of the underlying Hebrew Text. Truth can emerge from a variety of sources without necessarily having to be "divinely inspired", and yet at the same time remain true. An example of this is found in scripture, here: Act 17:28...