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Brightfame52, The real division between us, I believe, is the Hebrew understanding of Gen 1:26-28 and Gen 2:7. You've clearly conceptualized and articulated man having 3 distinct entities. That is: a spirit, a soul and a body (1Th 5:23) that makes-up a "man". The issue, as I see it, isn't...

Thanks for the response. The posts are too long so I'll be brief. Paul divides the person in 1Co 5:5. Flesh from spirit. The flesh is given over to destruction to the saving of the spirit. This is biblical, not Gnostic. Gnosticism does not affirm this. You'll need a refresher course in...

Yes, I have abandoned your theology. I don't find your theology to be "Christian". And thank-you for the response. The ideas you're expressing are framed within a Hellenistic narrative at its core. The type of universalism you mention is not the type I'm actually thinking of. Nor do I hold...

I agree with this assessment. If you input certain parameters, you can force AI not to fudge or nudge it's output. It has to work on a mathematical computation algorithm. It changes the whole dynamics. Doing so will force it to discard it's own bias data set it's programmed to return. Here...

The entire world, that is: all of humanity was "in" Christ and was crucified "with" Christ. And this mystical union (I know of no other way to express it) happened when Jesus hung on the cross. Look at these texts: Col 1:16 because in him were the all things created, those in the heavens...

Well, it's been a week and no responses. I'm still hoping to find some one that wants to be humored by my persistence. Here is AI's response on the grammar of Gal 2:20, and if it supports a fuller range of semantic ideas expressed by the naked dative: In Galatians 2:20, the phrase Χριστῷ...

I don't believe that your assertion (in bold) is supported by Rom 5:10. Here is why: The reconciliation according to the text is still one sided. God has taken man and reconciled man to Himself. And, the reconciliation occurs during the period of man's enmity to God. Man's state of being...

AI actually did a poor job of putting together some of the more "objective" aspects of salvation. It missed one of the most important texts. Here it is: Rom 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes upon Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness...

What you've actually articulated is often characterized as an "objective" aspect of salvation. It's not the fullness of salvation that we experience through faith, but what Paul states as a factual matter is a part of it. This theme is not unique to Rom 5:10, nor is it restricted to an "elect"...

Yes, the phrase "Χριστῷ συνεσταύρωμαι" uses the compound verb form having the prefixed preposition "συν". However, the point I wanted to make is that this grammatical usage with the verb does not restrict the noun to that single idea of "with" but allows the noun Χριστῷ without the dedicated...

lol...Let's discuss this. What do you believe was accomplished objectively, once and for all, by Jesus on the cross?

Thanks for the reply. Here is why I think the grammar does establish my conclusions. There is a distinction that Paul makes between objectively and subjectively being "in" Christ. Objectively, every human being is "in" Christ from creation, and yet not all human beings have been "united" to...

I'm not sure what specifically "universalism" teaches about salvation. Salvation, I believe, is objective as well as being subjective. And that might be where the conversation stalls. For example: Saul was objectively saved in Christ prior to his knowledge of it. Paul tells us this by...

Conceptually, I think the idea of αιωνιον is being outside of time itself. It's a Hellenistic concept. It's companion idea in Judaism, olam, suggests it's something beyond the horizon, an area unseen. The age of restoration, I believe takes place at death, when we move into the timeless age...

This is a good post, however it is not only applicable to the works of believers, but also unbelievers: Here are a few scriptures to validate this: 1Co 5:3 For I verily, being absent in body but present in spirit, have already as though I were present judged him that hath so wrought this...

I would agree that those born of God are "in Christ". However, all things are "in Christ". For "each one of us" live, move and have our being "in Him". All of humanity was created "in Christ" and "unto/for" Christ: Act 17:27 that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him...

This was actually Karl Barth's position too. Barth realized that when using the term "persons", it carried with it the idea that each "person" within the Trinity had their own "attribute of self-consciousness". And this idea was not the theological understanding of the early church fathers or...

I think that's getting closer, and I considered that one too, though the term "being" is actually with reference to a "human being": 3. A living, self-conscious being, as distinct from an animal or a thing; a moral agent; a human being; a man, woman, or child. All of these examples can be...

I think the Corporation identity for the Godhead is really better than using the term "persons". Just my preference though.

The OT tells us that God is not a man or human being (Num 23:19, 1Sa 15:29). And by that definition, God is not a "person". At least not in the sense of how we think of the word "person" or how the Merriam-Webster dictionary describes a "person": Definition of person 1 : human, individual...