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I hate copy-pasters for the most part. ("Um, you shouldn't hate!) They act as if you cannot read a website, but reading their post is somehow different. Anyway, many Catholics might feel intimidated to speak on theological matters since teaching is reserved for the recognized teachers in...

Are you talking to me? I think probably not since I've never copy-pasted in any fora.

Honestly, I completely disregard the Catholic church's stance on the canon for a number of reasons: 1. They too, like the Protestants delete books from the Bible (I've heard their defense of this many times so don't bore me) 2. Jerome introduced a number of Biblical innovations which were...

I can find these kind of parallels all day long. I have a one-year-bible which I refer to constantly. I am often shocked at how closely the different daily readings in Old Testament, New Testament, Psalms and Proverbs sychronize. Did the Holy Spirit inspire Tyndale House to divvy up the Bible...

It is the typical knee-jerk response of we Protestants that when the question is raised concerning books which are apparently missing from the Protestant Bible that we turn the subject to canonization or inspiration or both. In this manner we dodge the more relevant questions concerning the...

So, is that how you avoid answering him? The Book of Esther is not needed for salvation, right? Why is it even in the Bible? Your logic is similar, though stated in a different way, "everything needed for salvation is in the copy of the Bible I bought at the store, so I don't need or want any...

Agreed.

Books that DID make it into the Bible (the Old Testament), just not Protestant ones... Books which have had prevalent acceptance: (Accepted in both Catholicism and Orthodoxy) Tobit Judith 8 chapters of Esther 1 Maccabees 2 Maccabees The Wisdom of Solomon The Wisdom of ben Sirach Baruch The...

That is really from left field. No one has suggested any change to the Bible.

I will ask on hypothetical question: Is it possible that some books were written in ancient times by Biblical persons, and those books survived but were not included in the Bible? For instance, can we allow the thought that a Biblical patriarch wrote something, we can still read it, but it is...

Each of the Kings of Israel during the united monarchy were considered prophets by the Jews, that's Saul, David and Solomon. Acts 1:16 Brethren, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit foretold by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus.

It is my contention that almost any "problem" you can detect with the text or message of Enoch, the same class of problem can be found in some book of the Bible. The verse you cite from Enoch 72:2, is a case in point. Psalm 19:6 reads, "Its (the sun's) rising is from one end of the heavens...

Really? I've been reading it for a few years now and have not read that, and your the first person I have ever heard say that. Can you cite where? I suspect you cannot.

Do you realy think copy-pasting something from a website is how discussion boards are supposed to work? You do realize we all have Google, right? Are you a robot?

Well, no serious textual scholar would put it that way, and lets face it, anybody can be a researcher. The scholarly concensus on this question is that the complete copies of the Book of Enoch which survive in Ethiopic, represent an essentially faithful, formally-equivalent translation of the...

You seem bent on preserving a certain church's reputation as always being right. Your free to have your opininions, but the facts are different than the way you detail them.

Just one itty-bitty problem with your assertion... Your view did not become popular until sometime after 70 AD. During the time of Christ and prior, when the Jews who wrote and preserved the Old Testament Scriptures were the only interpreters of those Scriptures the universallly held...

No. Christ did not say that. Christ said he had a flesh and bone body. The blood is gone. Leviticus tells us "the life is in the blood". In the resurrection, the life of the body is no longer in the blood. Its source has changed.

In that case why did you place a "?" in the title of this thread. You should have stated "I know who were the sons of God mentioned in Genesis 6!"

Your hsitorical recap falls down on a number of details. To say the O.T. of the Septuagint at that time was 39 books is incorrect. The O.T. of Protestants today is 39 books. But I will assume you meant to say the LXX had 46 O.T. books. That is also incorrect, or at best misleading. The use of...