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    Why not Everyone will be Saved

    Dear gordon7, I read your posts but I can't really understand what you are trying to say. According to God's Word, do you believe that Christ going to save all mankind or is He not? Joe
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    Uh oh... I am thinking again. .... about why we dont agree on most things

    Dear Rella, When a believer is converted, their spiritual blindness will be healed by the "Spirit of Truth" (Latter Rain). After it is healed, the "man of sin' will be revealed to them (2Thes 2:8) and they will "see" the Abomination of Desolation (Mat 24:15) that previously occurred with...
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    Uh oh... I am thinking again. .... about why we dont agree on most things

    Dear Rella, I completely understood your post and answered your question as to why there are so many different understandings of God's Word. I will restate my post below using additional scripture to make my answer clearer: Everything that causes a believer to "be a believer" comes from...
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    Uh oh... I am thinking again. .... about why we dont agree on most things

    Dear Rella, Scripture tells us why most believers cannot come to the same understanding of God's Word. It is not because of different levels of intelligence, or wisdom, or length of time a person has been a believer or even what church denomination they attend. Mankind's individual abilities...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear APAK, With your comments, you are fulfilling Christ's words: Mat 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. If you were truly following Christ, you would not have said the things you did to me. Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear APAK, Until a believer has been given the Latter Rain and has their spiritual blindness healed, it is not possible for them to understand the teachings of Christ. If it were possible, then man's "works" would have some value in a person's salvation - but they don't. Joe
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You are getting very close to what I have been trying to show you. I just made another post (which should be above this one) that explains in more detail what you just stated in this post. I think you are just about there on your understanding! Joe
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: To me sin has to be revealed (or seen) before it is destroyed, otherwise one remains in denial. That part really confused me. I completely agree. Christ does reveal our sin to us before He converts us. That is what happens when a believer is given the Latter...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear APAX, You said: The story of creation and the Garden of Eden teaches about the nature of sin, the need for redemption, and the promise of a future savior (Genesis 3). The story of the Exodus and the giving of the Law at Mount Sinai teaches about God’s covenant relationship with His people...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear V______, I forgot one thing. I said that the "law can no longer slay him". I misspoke there. As you said, it is sin that slayed him. Joe
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear VictoryinJesus, The only thing I can add is for you to read the last few verses of Romans chapter 7 and the first several verses of chapter 8. In those verses is where Paul talks about the solution to mankind's sin and death problem that he explained in most of chapter 7. The solution is...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said, Paul to me is speaking personally of his own conversation (conversion) (I thought) when death came to “the child of the devil” …his carnality …during the (his) conversation process. Or that is what I read. Here is the scripture again: Rom 7:10 And the...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear VictoryinJesus, It's good to hear from you again. You asked: Is it appropriate to say that it’s holy and good “the slain of the Lord will be many”? Yes, it is holy and good. The scripture you quoted from Romans does not apply to the verse I quoted: Isa 66:16 For by fire and by his...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear APAK, You said: I do not agree with your marriage analogy of the 1st and the last rains as the historical two rain cycles in two seasons of the same year. 1Cor 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear APAK, The Early and Latter Rain analogy used in God's Word is purposely very concealed and only taught in Christ's spiritual language. But after a person has eyes that can see it, they can find the concept taught in many, many teachings of Christ. In the marriage analogy, when an...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear Mr. Bruno, You said: Your "latter rain" theology came out of a confused Pentecostal who just interpreted rain as the Holy Spirit. No, what I have been presenting is NOT what the Pentecostal church teaches. I have presented the Early and Latter Rain analogy to many Pentecostal believers...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear APAK, Thanks for your comments. Conversion only occurs by the very specific spiritual work of Christ that He does within a person. It has nothing to do with a person's actions or their walk. Christ is the Savior and He is the one who does the saving. Mankind can contribute nothing and...
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear Spyder, The story is a parable. It uses "spirit" words (John 6:63) to teach its message (like all of Christ's teachings do). Below I will quickly summarize the parable's meaning. Here is the story: Mat 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12 How think ye? if a...
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    Why not Everyone will be Saved

    Dear 12question, Read the verse again. Scripture is given so that the man of God may be perfect. Perfect means to be converted and spiritually matured. Understanding the truth taught by scripture is necessary according to Paul. Joe
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    The Only Way We Will Ever Agree

    Dear marks, Yes, they are true but you are misunderstanding them. Look at how Peter addresses the letter: 2Pet 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ...