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So God who existed before ANYTHING, used uncreated beings to create themselves????? Watchtower impasse big time. What clever solution do your superiors have to REFRAME that fact?

I agree Omission is a incubator for cults. The main pillar of the faith is the deity of Jesus. Emasculate that pillar and you are left with works religion. The entire foundation is kicked out from under the believer.

Romans 9:5,6 Have the Father as theos. You know, now you have God the Father as some subordinate "god" Jesus.... theos The Father ...theos

The personal attacks by you are some indication of your hidden rage. ( see how easy that is to ascribe wildly as you seem to have mastered?) Quote """FYI….the large caps were in the scripture directly copied from the NASB online Bible. I wasn’t yelling at anyone. The Bible itself was yelling at...

Never said anything about the word absent the spirit I am saying whether a person is born again, and spirit filled or not, the word remains intact. Spirit filled men interpret what is written in harmony and context. If out of harmony and context, the Holy Spirit did not lead them there. I am...

Who is The" us"?. Who is the "our image"

Textus receptus. The best KJV is right in there. Very accurate

Wonder how many watchtower sheep fall for that " angels are Co creators" baloney? Roughly 99.9 percent? What a sideshow teaching us their is hierarchy in heaven and God is Love. Total dodge, while trying to sound so watchtowery savvy.

"Us"...MAKE...CREATE ..MAN "In our image" John 1 " and apart from him...(AHEM , JESUS), THERE WAS Nothing CREATED" WE SEE Jesus as creator. But in your mental rejection Of Jesus, of course you have no idea who Jesus is. You instead try to figure out WHAT he is. You are, as far as I can tell, a...

I have reported the bible in a most accurate way. I didn't write it. You can do whatever with it. I just do my Job and watch people accept what is written or go against the bible.

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She denies the deity of Jesus She is watchtower, spreading lies and heresy here in this board. That is evil.

and yet watchtower has no understanding of salvation . Gen 1 Let US create man in OUR IMAGE, OUR LIKENESS. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all...

"""Internet yelling is a sign of desperation…you really can highlight portions of Scripture without looking like a fanatic….can you not discuss things rationally?""" Uh no, all caps for emphasis. But you also did it . For emphasis? Yelling at me? Desperation? I don't usually go there when I see...

Jesus was referring to "before the flood/trib" as opposed to "after the gt". The rapture of the church, " before the flood" ....not Pentecost. Jesus used Lot right alongside Noah to ensure the context and meaning. If one keeps reading ,we find those taken and left behind are The same ratio as...

Yes tribulation can, and does also come from God. Heb 12 7 If[d] you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9...

QUOTE """One thing that is pretty clear to me and has been pretty clear to me for quite some time now, is this. Pretribbers are nothing but a bunch of deceivers with their phony Pretrib rapture nonsense""" We are not the ones claiming the return on white horses IS the rapture.( an...

You have to look at the 144k ethnic Jews and the fact they are first fruit Jews. Factor that in. Then factor in that Jesus returns mid trib and gathers ripe fruit. The Jews in rev14:14. Also see ROM 11, where God eventually grafts back in the Jews. ( the catalyst being the great tribulation)...

Not only is the setting wrong for a mid trib (I know, I know, the new modern version is " only wrath/ trib") rapture, unless you say it is the Jewish harvest, But you also have the one taken/left, wrong. Both the one taken/left,of mat and Luke are 50%. The one taken of mat 25 in the virgins, is...

Yes we know there is a gathering AFTER THE GT. Thank you for pointing out 1 of 3 gatherings. It is as if you think that going back for the stragglers after main harvest is main harvest.since you have no idea of the dynamic of harvest. Yes there is a harvest after the main harvest of the church.(...