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  1. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    No need for the hate. You still will not address "revealed" and seem to think "revealed" means "in power". Obama was a leader. A bad one, but that is problematic to your view, in the light of HE WAS REVEALED WAY BEFORE IN POWER. (no matter how bad or good he was). Try to follow along. ...and...
  2. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    That "after the trib , is not "after what you say". Any position of what mat 24 is interpreted , needs qualifiers. It needs to fit. Preterists and postribbers use verses as all of us. The game changer is the qualifiers. ( things I can and can not say that makes my position biblical) Most all...
  3. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Instead of going after me personally, defend your deal. Defend your theory and base it on something Then pretend Obama was not REVEALED prior to taking power. Maybe this will help.. REVE'AL, verb transitive [Latin revelo; re and velo, to veil.] 1. To disclose; to discover; to show; to make...
  4. rebuilder 454

    The taken and the left

    There are 2 words used in that passage. One is "took", and obviously the're "took" to their death. That other word, "taken", is an entirely different Greek word.( taken to a good place) Those taken are half of a group. Your doctrine is basically saying half the world is wicked, and half born...
  5. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Nope. "Revealed" is hard to wiggle out of. Maybe look up the definition. It reads like it does. No additives, no dilutants. Falling away Revealed Rapture. Exactly like it reads. Sorry. You do not know what the purpose of the rapture is., nor what the Jewish gathering is, nor the purpose...
  6. rebuilder 454

    The taken and the left

    The ones left behind are in a pretrib setting. So yes, if you are praying to be left behind pretrib?....well that won't be good at all.
  7. rebuilder 454

    The taken and the left

    QUOTE "Jesus says the one will be taken and the other left. So who got taken? The one who was destroyed, just as it was in the days of Noah. In fact, when the disciples asked where they were taken, Jesus said look for the vultures, for that's where the dead bodies will be: "And they answered...
  8. rebuilder 454

    The taken and the left

    rebuilder 454 said: The "ones taken" in the Greek is translated "taken to a good place" Your reckless respose; "This falsehood is without scriptural support; it's recklessness born of a searing of the conscience and it compromises everything that follows it." Investigation is an obvious enemy...
  9. rebuilder 454

    The taken and the left

    The postribber model can never work. 1) in the "one taken" in mat 24, they need it to be half the world's population is taken, but the believers ( the other 50% ),stay behind BEFORE THE FLOOD. (A PRETRIB RAPTURE OF UNBELIEVERS.) SMH
  10. rebuilder 454

    The taken and the left

    As if Jesus never used symbolizm
  11. rebuilder 454

    A bit of a mess in the White House.

    Actually your lack of investigation has you seeing the entire thing backwards.
  12. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    He is revealed way before the trib starts. It says "REVEALED" correct? Obama was REVEALED way before he took power. He was revealed more than a year before he was elected . ( way before taking power) So by the Lord using "revealed" He was pointing to a pretribb rapture. The white horse rider...
  13. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Nope. In mat 24 "after the trib" You are Definately aligning with postribbers who think Jesus was wrong when he said "angels are sent" ( meaning Jesus is not there with them gathering) , not Jesus, "to gather in heaven"..NOT EARTH. In mat 24 "After the trib" ,You are actually going against the...
  14. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    QUOTE "And yet you claim that the Church will be in heaven before the nonexistent 7 year tribulation" 7 yrs according to Daniel. IN THE MIDDLE the AOD IS COMMITTED. Call the 7yr any whatever your doctrine allows. It is a seven yr period, and the white horse rider, ( that you say is just a...
  15. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    QUOTE "And yet you seem unable to understand the difference between the great tribulation and the one year wrath of God." Your private interpretation. No such thing as one year wrath of God. Nada. The AOD HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 7 YR TRIB OF DANIEL 9...as stated by Gods word. HELLO...the...
  16. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    We are in the falling away. So I don't see your point at all.
  17. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    I never said or believed there is a harvest at the white horses. The problem that you have is that in Matthew 24. He says after the tribulation. Jesus comes in power and great glory. And that can only be the white horses. There's no other place that Jesus comes in power and great glory, Except...
  18. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    QUOTE "I'm pretrib and pre wrath. I have no problem. You are talking to too many post tribbers and getting confused." You claim Noah and Lot analogies are separate comings. One pretrib One postrib. That is incorrect.
  19. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Nope. I Never needed ANY 7 DAYS...7 YEAR ANYTHING with what you are pushing falsely. HELLO....if you go back IT WAS YOU PUSHING THAT. YOU DID THAT. And then postribbers showed you that ON THE SAME DAY....Noah entered the ark. I sat back and ate popcorn watching yall batting the air. I never...
  20. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Double post