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Jesus said " if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father" In osas you could recant your testimony and deny Jesus, because no sin can separate you from God. IOW, All martyrs for 2000 years died for nothing, not knowing that their salvation was secure anyway. THEY COULD HAVE...

Luke 15 11 And he said, A certain man had two sons: 12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living. 13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far...

Nope. Not even close. The letters are to the churches. You really need to honestly look at it. Tyring to wiggle out of what scripture says is guaranteing error. The lamp and oil in the Lamp is the Holy Spirit. Lamps stand is oil filled. Remember the consequences for changing revelation. You...

Heb 6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing...

Nope. Not even close. The letters are to the churches. You really need to honestly look at it. Tyring to wiggle out of what scripture says is guaranteing error. Thelamp and oil in the Lamp is the Holy Spirit. Lamps stand is oil filled. Remember the consequences for changing revelation. You...

Huh? The saved congregation is removed? Saved but removed? So you are saying they lost salvation.

Lol Nice try Uh, no. You twisted it it big time SMH What a hoot.

Rev 3 4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name...

Rev 2 4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent Huh? The...

1 Tim 1 18 This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare; 19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: Ooops

1 cor 9 24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as...

1 cor10 1Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same...

Heb 6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing...

Uh, no, the basis for osas is that sin is not in the picture. That is the message of osas. I can be disobedient Or moderately disobedient Or grossly disobedient. In osas it is not a factor at all. So all the carnal disobedient believers breath a sigh of relief knowing disobedience is winked at...

Romans 11 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold...

Osas is obsessed with the concept. Where is the root in that paranoia? I totally believe it comes from the pulpit of carnal preachers. As does cessation and election. It has no traction in an on fire intimate believer. Osas is an obsession with others that haven't got the Baptist memo. What...

Your biggest hurdle is in understanding the debate. Until you do, you will just parrot your circular reasoning. You do not understand what the objections are. That is why osas depends on refraiming the other side. How aggegeius must sin become before God stops winking at it? Osas says you...

Oh yeah. I know you well. I attend a Baptist Bible study 3 times a week One of them has now questioned osas. The rest default to what they hear in the pulpit. I am full gospel. I am a bit of an odity in the bible study. I am once saved always saved. You question security. I do not. I an secure...

Snarky. "Much love" Is as much a cliche as anything. Say it 100 times a day. It loses any meaning. BTW. Spell check changed it to "sparky" in this post also.

SMH Your entire argument is simply parroting what you have been taught. We ALL BELIEVE our salvation is eternal. You have no idea what depart from the faith is. Here is tge difference and game changer for anyone looking for truth and an HONEST discussion. IN AN HONEST DISCUSSION, I WOULD...