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Step 1: Learn the difference between "wrong" and "lying". Step 2: Apologize to me for calling me a liar. Step 3: Then we can talk.

Look at you, completely ignoring everything I said, refusing to own what you did, and trying to sound pious at the same time. I have just lost all respect for you.

If you believe the book of Revelation speaks of our future, then YOU are not rightly dividing his word and you are not staying with what the Bible says, that means you're pushing false doctrine, and that makes you guilty according to your own measure. Guilty as charged! You see how stupid this...

I should step back and listen? How about you go back and read it again, because you're falsely representing what I said. I never said that whatever you want to believe to be truth, IS TRUTH! I never said that, so stop falsely accusing me. I said that they are preaching what they BELIEVE to...

You really need to pick up a dictionary and learn the difference between being wrong and lying. Believing something that is not true, is not the same as lying. Any one of us could be guilty of believing something that is not true, but that doesn't make us liars. You still owe me, and all...

It's not an opinion, it's a fact that nobody on here is lying. Do you understand the difference between being wrong and telling a lie? You're more than welcome to claim that I'm wrong about something, or that anybody else is wrong, but to say that they are outright lying is something else...

So what? If that's what they believe to be the truth, then they believe they are preaching the truth! They certainly are not purposely lying and deceiving, because to do that they would have to know what the truth is, and purposely preach the opposite. Do you think your old church was...

Whether you knew I was a preterist or not, you're accusing your fellow brethren of being liars and deceivers. That's not o.k. We, as a group, disagree with each other on this forum all the time. That's normal, and to be expected, but accusing others of being purposely deceitful is a very big...

You're not really interested in having a discussion, are you? Why are you here?

Wow. So you're literally accusing me of knowingly lying, because, according to you, I want people to be deceived? Why on earth would I want people to be deceived? Do you think I'm the devil?

On the contrary. I'm looking at things from a different perspective, and realizing that from this perspective, it all makes a lot more sense. I too used to believe as you do, but now I no longer have to ignore scripture verses to make my doctrine work, as you do. Instead of assuming that...

ok, now we're getting somewhere. So essentially, the entire notion of a one world government comes from Revelation. My point is simply this: All of that refers to our past, not our future. The very first verse of Revelation tells us that the vision is about things "which must soon take...

Wow. I ask you to show me proof that the Bible prophesies a one world government, and you give me the story of Noah. You're no better than Scott. Is my request really that hard to understand? And then you question my level of intelligence? What's going on here?

If it's there, show me. Scott refuses to. Maybe you can do better.

There was another alien encounter in Peru, years ago, where some soldiers received a message from aliens saying something along the lines of "we'll be back soon". I wish I could remember the details or find a reference, but this village story reminded me of that.

Nobody's saying they are not connected. I'm saying a one world government is not prophesied in the Bible, and for some reason it's very difficult for you to admit that. You seem to want to shift the conversation away from your original claim. You made a mistake, just own it. Don't try to...

That's like saying a nuclear war is evil, so therefore the Bible has prophesied a nuclear war. :rolleyes: Such a convenient way of thinking. You can literally claim anything you want is prophesied in the Bible (even if it isn't) because you can say it's evil and "evil is evil".

I think you're wrong. I agree that people can definitely open themselves up to this sort of stuff, and invite it into their lives, but I don't think our faith means we can't see the spiritual realm, and even evil entities. Besides, we don't have any evidence to say that these things were...

o.k. but whatever these things were, people did see them. Don't say that everybody is on drugs, because that's obviously nonsense. People saw something, and whatever they saw was really there. We can argue about what they saw, and obviously none of us really know, but to say that there was...

You're moving the goal posts. I never asked you about what evil men are plotting. I said that the Bible does not prophesy a one world government, and you said that it does, but you weren't able to back up your claim. And instead of admitting your mistake you tried to pretend that those verses...