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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    I edited previous comment, if you read it before, go over it once again. Also, I'm ending this conversation now and will not be replying to you, because if you don't believe me after what I said to you, there's no point talking to you anymore, but believe me, you were fooled and your gospel is...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:55‭-‬57 KJV Law is the power of sin and it doesn't anymore has it. By...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. Galatians 2:17 KJV We're found sinners according to Paul as well.
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    "The soul that sins is dead to God"... Are you dead then? Or would you say you're without sin? Do you think you're perfect and deserve salvation on your own, or you should be like that? Look, Abraham, Job, Moses and prophets are much more righteous compared to us, but New Testament say everyone...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Man, you really are a pervert. Bible literally says He's firstborn and everything is created through Him and for Him. I already citated it.
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Christ is firstborn of every creature. Before Abraham was, He was already. After He died and resurrected in Revelation He's described completely different from human, so He could have been in another form in Eden as well, not as human, if you don't like it. Additionally NT says: No man hath...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    First of all He didn't claim to be a god or divine or God. And they wanted to kill him, because by saying He's the Son of God he was making Himself equal to the God they believe in. Second, you pervert, who was in Eden walking in the cool of the day, when NT says God is invisible and Christ is...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    They're without article indeed. There's more without article. 1 Thessalonians 2:5 Interlinear: for at no time did we come with speech of flattery, (as ye have known,) nor in a pretext for covetousness, (God is witness!) It's written there "God is witness". In the verses you said they meant God...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Let us dig deeper, then. Your words about image doesn't deny even single of my words. I didn't say that He's called God in that verse. You said it's a good place to say about it, but it wasn't said, therefore He's not God, but this place simply tells us that He's an image of invisible God — God...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Nope, you clearly confused me with someone else. Where you showed me something and where I said I'm done here. I showed you where He's called the Lord God and you're just changing the theme every time. I can comment on Isaiah 9:6 as well, I know how JWs deny it.
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    You've got me confused with someone else. I said Isaiah 9:6 and the Lord God in Genesis. Have you ever read any of it? Tell me who was it in Genesis walking in the cool of the day, when NT says Father is invisible, and Jesus is a physical body of Father? Aren't you're pervert already like JWs...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    You're accused justifiably. It came from JWs, who are perverts. Whatever I said to you I've shown it on the Bible. You said Jesus wasn't called God anywhere and I've proven you otherwise. Even through your words of "image" it's clear they repeating after JWs, just without other bad things. I...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    It's only they that pervert Bible like this. Why would you say about "image" like this if I already written about it. In context it's used together with invisible and just means something you can see. Alright, i won't call you, but did you read my full answer? Did you see, that Jesus is perfect...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Yeah, I already saw it. You're JW or ex-JW. They're all perverts. That's why I already mentioned about this word, they speak the same. Even through it's said in the New Testament that God is Son, Father and Holy Spirit, you pervert everything. Besides that there are another word "form/shape"(and...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Man, you're too much. Very offensive with many assumptions about me without thinking, saying I didn't repent etc. I'm not preaching my own gospel, that's what Bible says. No matter what you do, you'll continue to sin and Bible admits it. No one is righteous and can't be. It's impossible to be...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Sorry I didn't read correctly. That Son is God is clear from multiple verses, not from one. In the context of the whole Bible. 1) Son is a form and image of the God. I.e. physical body. .. Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Colossians 1:15 KJV The Son is...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Sorry, that I'm butting in, but it wasn't invented by Catholics, it's stated directly in the Bible. Not so directly as to say Father is God, but it said many times by Jesus "your Heavenly Father" in Sermont of the Mount and many other places, so, yes, there's no need to state the obvious, as...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Am I understanding it right, that when some people are teaching about separated head from sinful body they mean sin is allowed? I understand this is bad and we shouldn't sin, but it's bad to teach you should be holy in every deed. You should be holy, but you're not supposed to completely stop...
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    Man's body not shaped in the image of God

    Thank you. I didn't read this long discussion, but are there any different opinions? He was born like a human and grew up as everyone else, He suffered in temptation due to His weak flesh to the point that He had sweat with blood when his whole being rejected his choice, so of course He's human...