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  1. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Jesus didn't think high numbers are significant: Mattt 7 14For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
  2. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Whoever said grace is something that is unmerited? Grace is earned according to the Bible, hence why one can do something to fall from grace. God doesn't make people sin does He? Galatians 5 4You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from...
  3. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    And then after that there is no mention of anyone mentioning limited atonement. You got the cart is front of the horse; you still have not even shown an example of anyone saying or describing limited atonement as a valid path to salvation. You have not addressed all of the alternatives.
  4. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Your point seems to be that high numbers mean something is true?
  5. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Grace is accessed through your faith, not God's faith. Romans 5 1Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we stand. And we rejoiceb in the hope of the glory...
  6. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Your comment is absurd. Isaiah 41:8,9 is about them being chosen as servants. I believe in some venues among those well read in Scripture, they would be laughing at you. Isaiah 41 8“But you, O Israel, My servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, descendant of Abraham My friend— 9I brought you from...
  7. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    No God didn't force me to be saved. God told us what to do to be saved, I did it. I kept my end of the deal and He kept His, but the final judgement hasn't even happened for me yet. You and I will stand before our maker, regardless of our beliefs, and give an account. Eternal life will be given...
  8. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    You said "False, in order to be given faith you have to be of the chosen seed" you're talking about people being given something by God that they neither asked for and possibly never wanted. You are describing God forcing Himself on others without explicitly stating it.
  9. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Because he preaches false gospels like limited atonement.
  10. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Some names need to be mentioned if it helps people know where the false prophet is. Don't you want people to know who to explicitly avoid? It isn't a vain philosophy to protect others.
  11. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    I don't believe God made different plans for salvation. I believe He established the new covenant using Jesus and opened it up to the world for whosoever shall enter the new covenant. Covenants have rules, terms, conditions, and they can be broken. This is why the Bible describes salvation as...
  12. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    No, God doesn't force anyone to trust Him.
  13. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Yes Christianity is extremely divided on basic concepts such as salvation because some are mislead and deceived by people like John Calvin.
  14. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Yes and I am sure all 5 of those Christians will all say that Jesus or God has revealed the meaning of the word to them too. It is possible to believe one is on the correct path when they are not. Do you admit it's possible you got it all wrong? Here's a better question... which one of those...
  15. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    And all you need to do to be of the seed of Abraham is have faith, according to the Bible. It's open to anyone to be born again spiritually.
  16. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Sure. Any good lawyer can make the Bible appear to say something it really does not. This is where all of the heresies come from. The Bible can be represented in such a way so that the prosperity gospel seems valid when it actually is not. There is a way to use verses in such a way so as to...
  17. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    The problem with your commentary is that it is only stated by you and the Calvinists and not stated in the Bible. Which means your gospel is false and cannot save anyone. Amen!
  18. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Seems Matt and Luke remembered this differently. Surely there are some teachings by Jesus that suggest those who go astray can be lost.
  19. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Absolutely, God does pursue those who belong Him, but they can resist God. People can change, become unfaithful, start giving lip service, denying God, take the mark of the beast, etc. Of course God doesn't want that, but people can go astray. Jesus taught on this very matter, saying that sheep...
  20. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    I say amen to all of the verses you provide, but the controversy is with the commentary you provide about them.