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There is an argument to be made that the "By him was everything created which is in Heaven and in The Earth: everything that is seen and everything that is unseen..." doesn't refer to the previously mentioned person, meaning Jesus isn't the actual Creator. For example, some versions of Acts...

God made everything and is not served by human hands. Jesus had human hands. Do the math. Acts 17 24The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples made by human hands. 25Nor is He served by human hands, as if He needed anything...

Colossians 1 says Jesus is the image of the invisible God and is himself created. That means he isn't the invisible God and came later after God. Revelation also says Jesus was created. Your premise doesn't follow to a sound Biblical conclusion. Do not begin with a theology about what you...

Unbelievers often come to the Bible with a child's disposition and see that Jesus' Daddy is also his God. God has many sons (and daughters of course) who are not themselves God, are human, didn't literally descend from heaven, etc and Jesus isn't an exception. I believe the Bible describes the...

John wrote about the Word differently in 1 John 1:1-3, calling it an it, a thing, that was revealed to them. I am inclined to believe that John 1 is applying personification to the Word. This may have been intuitive when it was originally written since in Hebrew poetry there are a lot of...

There is no fit because Genesis 1 says God made the heavens and the earth. Colossians 1 says Jesus is the image of the invisible God. The "image of God" creating the heavens and the earth isn't a biblical doctrine. If Jesus was himself God then that would have been the perfect time to just say...

I believe we should also carefully consider who we are following in the Bible. Are we following Thomas' lone opinion? Are we following what the opinion of the Pharisees was who said Jesus was a sinner who broke the Sabbath? A lot of things are said in the Bible, but many things are not all...

I interpret the bits about God having "back parts" or a "right hand" or Moses seeing God "face to face" as not literal. There could also be translation issues there. All I know is a man didn't create the heavens and earth. The Bible says the first humans were Adam and Eve. Too many discrepancies...

Not much different than what catholics/protestants say about Jesus. "God in the flesh" is just as false about the Father as it is about the Son. God never was, is, or will be a man under any circumstances according to Scripture.

Fair enough, but this forum needs to have this discussion and so long as we have kept it civil and cordial I think no one has attempted to intervene. However, yes I do understand your point. Perhaps this is better kept for another time.

I am aware of John 17:5 and then right before that in John 17:3 it directly says that only the Father is God. That means Jesus isn't God if John 17:3 is accepted on its own ground. As far as the pre-existence of Jesus, we should determine in what sense Jesus pre-existed. Whether it be literal...

The Word could either possibly be a god or something godly. I personally believe that Jesus didn't pre-exist as a being known as the Word simply because there is nothing clear in the Old Testament or New Testament about Jesus pre-existing. This is also supported by the Greek. What was Jesus...

Well said, and even Jesus said such himself. Matt 27 46About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” Then in Psalm 22, know who the God Jesus referring to is? :)

You could quote an infinite number of versions/translations of Isaiah 9:6 and the result wouldn't change. The matter is Isaiah 9:6 doesn't call Jesus mighty God. It says he will be called that and then he was never called that. Isaiah 9 6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and...

A Christian is a person who believes in Jesus Christ and follows his teachings. So the answer to your question is going to be based on if they actually believe in and follow Jesus' teachings. After having looked through what the beliefs of the Latter-Day Saints are on their website, I have...

Didn’t happen by anyone with any authority. God didn't say it, Jesus didn’t say it, the disciples didn’t say it. That’s a clue Isaiah 9:6 isn’t translated correctly. Here’s how Brenton’s Septuagint Translation (LXX) words it. Esias 9 6For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose...

John 20:17 says that Thomas' God is the Father. Therefore, when Thomas said "my God" in John 20:28 why would that change? The word "prayer" doesn't appear there in the Greek. Calling out or speaking to someone isn't praying to them, whether they be the Son at God's right hand or otherwise...

Jesus and other men given authority by God to forgive sins: Matthew 9 6But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...” Then He said to the paralytic, “Get up, pick up your mat, and go home.” 7And the man got up and went home. 8When the crowds saw this...

Saying what someone will be called isn't the same thing as calling them that. Once again, Jesus was never called "mighty God" in the Bible. Nor was Jesus called the Everlasting Father. If you have the scripture showing otherwise, would love to see it. No one in the universe has found it...

Some translations of Isaiah 9:6 say the child would be "called" mighty God and then Jesus was never called that. Actually, Jesus went on to deny being God. Jesus also isn't the everlasting Father. If Jesus is the everlasting Father, then that would mean the Son is the Father and your theology of...