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  1. TrevorHL

    Crucifixion Question

    Greetings Behold, An affectionate belief of the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Name Acts 8:5-6,12 is the first requirement for salvation and this should motivate the believer to want to identify with and share the death and resurrection of Jesus by water baptism. It would be interesting for you...
  2. TrevorHL

    Do you write in your Bible?

    Greetings again Jay Ross, You have given some of your overall examination of this verse, but I cannot agree with the above statement. Again you introduce the second death even though it is not mentioned in Genesis 2:17. Also you mention Satan, but it was the Serpent who spoke. The Serpent...
  3. TrevorHL

    Do you write in your Bible?

    Greetings again Jay Ross, Yes. What I cannot understand is your suggestion that you will in some way produce your own Bible replacing the text with your interpretations. My understanding of Bible Marking is to leave the text as it is, and then underline "surely die" and then in the margin in...
  4. TrevorHL

    Do you write in your Bible?

    Greetings Jay Ross, Interesting, but I disagree with your doctrinal perspective which you have superimposed on this verse and replaced the actual words of the text. I suggest that the death mentioned in Genesis 2:17 is the death explained in Genesis 3:19.. Kind regards Trevor
  5. TrevorHL

    Do you write in your Bible?

    Greetings again Matthias. I have recently received an interesting addition to my library which in some respects resembles a fully marked up Wide Margin Bible. It was a gift from a US speaker who stayed with my brother-in-law when he visited and spoke in Sydney. It is Dake's Annotated Reference...
  6. TrevorHL

    Paul and Baptism

    Greetings mailmandan, Both you and the article go to great lengths to avoid the simple and clear teaching that both an affectionate belief in the Gospel of the Kingdom and Name AND water baptism is all part of the process of salvation and the start of a life which is crucified and resurrected...
  7. TrevorHL

    What is the atonement?

    Greetings again markalan, This was a favourite expression used by a prominent pioneer of my fellowship in his writings in the 1850-1860s. Perhaps there is some resemblance but belief is much the same as saying faith, and I consider "affectionate" as well as covering the actual acceptance of...
  8. TrevorHL

    What is the atonement?

    Greetings again markalan, I consider what you state above are a significant part of the two parts of the Gospel of the Kingdom and Name, Acts 8:5–6,12 (AV): 5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. 6 And the people with one accord gave heed unto those...
  9. TrevorHL

    What is the atonement?

    Greetings markalan, Without getting too involved with all that has been stated, I tentatively agree with what you state above. To use technical terms, I believe that Jesus died as our representative, not our substitute, He came in fallen human nature so that he could through his sinless life...
  10. TrevorHL

    Only Paul, no-one else for today

    Greetings again Peter Androz, That is an erroneous request. Matthew is simply recording the words of Jesus and even Paul would endorse these words as being applicable to us. Kind regards Trevor
  11. TrevorHL

    Only Paul, no-one else for today

    Greetings again Peter Androz, Yes, but you seem to be misusing this fact to erroneously imply that Peter and John preached a different Gospel to the Gospel that Paul preached. In your OP as stated above you claim that we do not need to listen and obey the teachings of Christ, and as such I...
  12. TrevorHL

    Only Paul, no-one else for today

    Greetings Peter Andrew, Jesus is our teacher and reveals how to be saved. This in no way diminishes the role of Paul. Any distinction is artificial. Kind regards Trevor
  13. TrevorHL

    Do you write in your Bible?

    Greetings Matthias, As young people we were encouraged to write in our Bibles. Many of us had Oxford Wide Margin Bibles. One exercise given to us was to mark where Isaiah was quoted in the NT, referencing both the OT and NT passages. We were given a thorough list but there is also a more useful...
  14. TrevorHL

    Pastor/teacher deserves a wage but should stop there.

    Greetings again Peter Andrew. One of the members of our meeting related the following two incidents. His father was a Pentecostal and after his retirement and was going to go on a three month tour. Pentecostals are evidently strong on a one tenth tithe. His Pastor told him that he should pay up...
  15. TrevorHL

    Pastor/teacher deserves a wage but should stop there.

    Greetings again Peter Andrew. That is fine and beneficial, but I question the practice to have one dominant paid Pastor or Reverend. I appreciate the fact that our meetings have a number of speakers from our own congregation and also we have the benefit of visiting speakers for both Sunday...
  16. TrevorHL

    Pastor/teacher deserves a wage but should stop there.

    Greetings Peter Andrew. I belong to a lay movement where many give talks and studies. I have serious doubts as to whether one paid pastor can maintain a congregation successfully. The NT pattern seemed to be that each congregation had a number of elders. Kind regards Trevor
  17. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    This has been a long running thread and it would be difficult to respond to the many views, even the present discussion. I find the following statement by John Thomas in his book Elpis Israel Page 441 1850 interesting and to some extent relevant to this topic as he advocated pre-millenniumism...
  18. TrevorHL

    Is Jesus “The Angel of the Lord?”

    Greetings Fred, I prefer the explanation that there were two separate groups, the descendants of Seth, the Sons of God and the descendants of Cain, worldly and wicked. The breakdown and intermarriage resulted in widespread wickedness and breakdown of the holiness of the descendants of Seth...
  19. TrevorHL

    According to Genesis 3: 16-19 what your take on these scriptures?

    Greetings again Davy, I suggest that the summary expression Continuous Historic view is very meaningful by comparison to many other views. I doubt that we would agree concerning the understanding of Revelation 12. Kind regards Trevor
  20. TrevorHL

    According to Genesis 3: 16-19 what your take on these scriptures?

    Greetings again bro.tan, Your statement is a bit obscure. The Saints will be kings and priests and will rule over the mortal nations with Israel as the first dominion. Kind regards Trevor