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It appears as though I am going to have to pass over this verse for the moment and get back to it once I understand the full context of the passage. What we know so far:1. James is talking to believers2. The issue is someone saying that he has faith (pistin), but there is no works (erga - plural...

That is probably the case. I am a novice at Greek, but I know enough to be dangerous ;0). I do believe that you are correct though, and the translators would agree: ,if someone says he has faith but does not have works.Whether it is work or works, I don't think it affects the conclusion too...

Address the debate, Jag, not me.

Faithful1, the debate is not about me, it is about OSAS. Please, just deal with the topic at hand. Either James or Matthew 24

Yes, I do.

Not nit picking. Just showing what I believe to be true from the Word of God.

I do have scripture to support the OSAS, but it is not yet my turn to present them. I am working right now with what Swampfox gave me.

My focus from here on out will be in the James thread.

If God hates hypocrites, Kriss, then why did He die for them?

I thought to start a new thread as anyone who might be joining in on the debate will got lost in the other ones that we have open. So far, the debate has moved from one thread to another! From the "What Jesus Said..." thread to the OSAS thread. So, to bring everything back together:My study on...

Amen, Daniel. Amen. It would, however, as I have said to the others, and to remain consistent, be best to show your argument from the Word of God, for that is the source of truth.

Just wondering if you attend Church, that doesn't answer the question...

Ok, thank you for your response. I will address anything that Faithful1 has for me, and go from there.

I am not asking you to, and I respect your stand. I am simply wanting to make sure that I have made mine clearly, though. Is there anything that you want elaborated from what I have said, or something that you think I have not been to clear on or have not addressed in the Matthew 24 passage...

Ad Hominem, thesuperjag - attacking the debater rather than debating. What does this have to do with addressing what was written in Matthew 24?

This is something that may help. This was obtained from the following site, which would be a great read for all of us (including myself, and I plan to do so right now). I took a course in Critical Thinking and Debating in College, and what I am posting here was actually some major points in what...

No, I did not present this as an argument for OSAS, this was presented as an argument against OSAS. I have two more passages to address before I present my support passages for OSAS into the debate.

The ones that I Have addressed: http://www.christianityboard.com/why-does-jesus-t2662p2.htmlParticularly towards the end of the post in which I address the two servants.

Is the Matthew 24 passage satisfied, or do you still wish for me to clarify anything in the argument that I have presented.

and yes, you would say the same about me, and I respect that. But I am asking that you prove me wrong with the Word of God so that if I am wrong I may know the truth, but you are not willing to do so. Use the Word of God to defend what YOU believe, not the Watchmen to defend yourself. Please...