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    ARE THERE STILL PROPHETS AND APOSTLES?

    If you read a few verses before 11-13 you'll see that it's Jesus who established and appointed these positions. The position of apostle and prophet have become obsolete. They can't be apostles because... by John Brown.... Here are the qualifications of an apostle: (1) They had to have seen...
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    John MacArthur lashes out against homosexuality

    He say's that after Rev. 4 the church never appears again until the return of Christ in chapter 19. It amazes me that a man with such international influence can goof that up! He's basing his beliefs on something that he say's "is not in scripture" (church) when in fact it is! We have martyrs...
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    APOSTASY: WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T

    1 Timothy 1:19  Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: 20  Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. And 2 Tim. 2:16-19 2 Timothy 2:16-19.  But shun profane and...
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    ARE THERE STILL PROPHETS AND APOSTLES?

    You may be right on both accounts since both are extaordinary people. Maybe not the 144,000. You're speaking metaphorically. I'm speaking literally. You're a disciple if you chose to follow him. You can't be an apostle or prophet. And I want to thank everyone for all the affirmative replies...
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    ARE THERE STILL PROPHETS AND APOSTLES?

    The are no more apostles or prophets. Not only did the prophets speak by divine inspiration but being a prophet was a position (office bearrer) that had specific functions and dealt with specific issues and spoke to significant people. (the OT & NT fathers) As you will see. (I hope) When most...
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    Prophetic Testimony & End-times revelation @ America's end.

    There will be no 7 year treaty. The covenant with many isn't a peace treaty it's an alliance. Probably Psalm 83 or Ez. 38-39. And Israel isn't part of it. Prophets became obsolete about 100 years after the church began. I don't want to hijack the thread. That happens too often here. Maybe...
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    APOSTASY: WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T

    Apostasy - (noun) 1. The act of abandoning a party or cause. You can't abandon something and still remain in it. 2. The state of having rejected your religious beliefs, political party, cause or sports team in favor of opposing beliefs, causes or teams. See it? Reject one thing...and favor...
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    Prophetic Testimony & End-times revelation @ America's end.

    Was it a dream or a vision? There is a difference! There are no longer any prophets. All the prophecies have been given. BUT! We are able to prophesy. The prophetic koo-koo Ahmadinejad has been bragging that he has 40,000 (Shia) suicide bombers in the US. These jihadist (Shia sect of...
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    APOSTASY: WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T

    1 Tim 1, 19, 20 and 2 Tim. 2: 16-19 have nothing to do with apostasia. What does 'truth' have to do with 2 Thes. 2? Where is 'truth' implied in the passage? And how and why would a defection from biblical truth be what withholds the man of sin? And why would heresy be the catalyst that empowers...
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    APOSTASY: WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T

    What you are doing is exactly what everyone else is doing. You associate the word apostasia with the word aphistemi and parapipto. They are totally different words that have completely different meanings and are used in completely different contexts. The best way to see how apostasia is used is...
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    Changed At The Twinkling Of An Eye

    I don't know why I even hang around here to deal with you veteran. Get it right or shut up!
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    APOSTASY: WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T

    Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; There are several extensive web sites like "Apostasy in the church and false doctrines of men," by Don Koenig, that attribute the...
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    The Biblical Principle Of Nations: Identifying The Ten Kingdoms Of Ezekiel 38

    By the way Richard I'm in total agreement with your post. The NWO has been around since the 40's and it will have absolutely nothing to do with the end. I'll never understand why people assume that the leadership of every country in the world would willingly relinquish their governing...
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    Changed At The Twinkling Of An Eye

    Context is important but the original text is how I determine the true context. All 3956 scripture 1124 [is] given by inspiration of God 2315, and 2532 [is] profitable 5624 for 4314 doctrine 1319, for 4314 reproof 1650, for 4314 correction 1882, for 4314 instruction 3809 in 1722 righteousness...
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    Changed At The Twinkling Of An Eye

    Is that why there's over 130 different words for all and the word is used six to seven ways? It's called rightly dividing the Word of Truth. I believe in the inspired Word of God and I'm sure you do. The word inspired means God breathed or God spoke. When God spoke to His servants the...
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    Identifying The Eight Kings Of Revelation 17:10

    You haven't proven a thing other than you have fallen for a very big lie. And you're a pretty good fabricator too! Your entire response doesn't have one verse that points to Rome. It's basically a copy and paste reply from the zillion anti-Catholic hate sites on the web. It's blasphemy to...
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    Identifying The Eight Kings Of Revelation 17:10

    Veteran, I associate the empires of the fallen kings of verse 10 as the same empires of verse 12 where the 10 kings "have received no kingdom as yet;" but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. Different kings, same empires. Sorry if I misled you. You seem to do a pretty good job of...
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    Identifying The Eight Kings Of Revelation 17:10

    Oh stop it you num skull! That's what Larry on the stooges would call you anyway! The word pipto is one word, the word fallen. I'm dealing with the word 'ARE'! The word are isn't in the original text before the word fallen. It's put there for our understanding in English. Here's the link...
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    Identifying The Eight Kings Of Revelation 17:10

    It never matters to you anyway. The word 'are' is a plural present indicative. I'm not concerned with the word fallen so much as the word 'are.' 'Are' isn't before the word fallen in the original text or interlinear anyway. (I can re-check) It's put there for our understanding in English...
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    Identifying The Eight Kings Of Revelation 17:10

    Veteran said, Sorry Vet but THE WORD USED IN THE TEXT ISN'T 'HAVE' AND IT'S NOT PAST TENSE. It's 'are.' It doesn't matter what word the NIV uses because that's what's misleading you. I don't use it often in my studies. The big thing is...the word IS NOT PAST TENSE! God spoke to John in the...