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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    THERE ARE ONLY TEN LAWS WE MUST OBSERVE THEY ARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTSI Have told you a many times ordances, statues,rites and rituals are not laws why dont you study the difference instead of repeating the same old argument time and time again? You seem to be the only one who cant seem to get...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    I just have a question I would like to ask. we know that instruments were used in worship to God in the old testament, then why all of a sudden did christians stop using them. for about 600 years they are barely mentioned at all in christian worship, why? and when they are mentioned they are...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    hey guys, sorry it has been a while since I have posted.I would first like to point out that I am not saying that the old tesament is useless or that it was wrong or that we should just tear it up and throw it out. the point that I am trying to make is that the old tesament has been fulfilled...
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    Is The Old Covenant Binding Today?

    I thought that I would start a new thread since we kinda got off track on the instrumental music in worship thread. this was the whole defense from the bible for staying under the the Law of Moses Acts 13:38-39 Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    (kriss;19577) This thread has become ridiculous as your reasoning Musical interments are not against God nor is the Law obsolete if you cant understand the bible on this fine do as you like and do not touch instruments. Listen to men whatever but stop trying to convince everyone here you are...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    regarding the lost tribes of israel, anybody can be a christian, and what if there is somebody who desended from a gentile nation. would they be able to be christians?
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    (tim_from_pa;19566) No, Jesus is not a blood descendant of Jehoiachin, but Matthew's genealogy is his legal lineage only. But I won't elaborate on genealogies since I don't feel like it today, but traces the lineage of the kings and lost tribes of Israel. I don't know about your Jesus, but mine...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    now about the law of moses... I would like to pose a question, are you one of the Children of Israel or the house of jacob? if not then according to the old testament you are not involved in this covanent.Ex. 19:1 “In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    (tim_from_pa;19532) And may I add, Jesus has to come back to take the Davidic Throne (Luke 1:32), and the stipulation of the Davidic throne is that David would have descendants to reign on it for all generations. The Davidic throne is an Earthly throne. Since Jesus is not now on this throne...
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    (kriss;19484) you are right one baptism of spirit Not water and your verses do not say water they say baptism the verse you quoted are talking baptism of repentance and belief we are saved by grace when we repent and are baptised by the spirit no where are we told water washes away sin and saves...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    (tim_from_pa;19490) Well, what about Ezekiel 27, and the end chapters of Ezekiel concerning the land allotment of the tribes, the priests, temple, etc when Christ returns one day?I don't think you read my earlier post. The part supposedly "done away" with was the Mosaic Law fulfilled in...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    (kriss;19461) And we have given you scripture to show you are wrong the Law has never been replaced only the ordinancescan you read Jesus's wordsMatthew 5:17-18 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    (kriss;19457) We have explained this to you over and over this has nothing to do with instuments it is a not in Gods word posting studies of men changes nothing musical Instuments ARE NOT AGAINST GODS WORD PERIOD with all due respect, I have been doing my best to show you through the bible that...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    also here is a grear article explaining Matt. 5:17-18.Did Christ Abolish the Law of Moses?March 5, 2002by Wayne Jackson Did Jesus, in the Sermon on the Mount, claim that the law of Moses (including sabbath observance) would last till the end of the world?“Some teach that Christians are not under...
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    (kriss;19429) Yes be baptized, by the Holy spirit not water you continue to disreguard this fact when you yourself have present evidence of this WATER DOES NOT SAVE DOES NOT WASH AWAY SINS only the living water of Christ that you claim through GRACE of God and baptism of the spirit. Only one...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    (kriss;19433) Well see thats the whole thing men say we deal in what God says here. Men make religions out of all kinds of things. We study Gods word here. We are not trying to rude but we are students of the Word. We have little use for mans words/traditions. We welcome you to study with us but...
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    (thesuperjag;18898) And did you forget that poor thief that was never been able to get a chance to be water baptized like the others? Is he saved?Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour. I addressed this earlier in the thread but I don't think that I explained it enough, here is what I...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    Also, I would like to point out that throughout history since Chirst established the church, that instrumental music wasn't used until the 6th century and it was met with great outcry. it wasn't widely accepted until the 18th century and it was still met with outcry. Its interesting that most...
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    Instrumental Music In Worship???

    sorry I haven't replyed in several days, i was at a bible camp retreat all weekend and i have been busy the past couple of days.(elmo;19354) I understand now that God never changed but the way he deals with us changes but why give people in the old testament the right to have instruments in...
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    you completely missing the point. We are commanded to be baptized in Water for remission of sins, every example of baptism that we have is water baptism, all of the conversion examples involved water baptism. Let me ask you a question Mr. God's Word Is TRUTH!!!...May I?Which saves water OR...