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To stand down and defuse the situation in this thread that Mellerd started Lets just ask why then does the catechism contradict itself? This topic is being discussed in the chatholic protestant thread and I do believe mells message is more important that proving what many already know. You can...

That what the RCC says but the NT says differently about Jesus it says he sahred the seed of David and Abraham not some new created woman free from the stain of original sin. Here's the verses are you denying them? Hebrews tells us that Jesus shared the seed of Abraham, Heb 2:16-17 KJV Romans...

Of course not aspen that is who he got his flesh from. His Father was not of this earth. But that's not the point, the point is Mary by RCC teaching can never be called a daughter of Eve, or of Abraham simply because the RCC makes her in to a goddess, instead of the women born of the same...

963 Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the...

I'll Vote that post up Dan57

I already went there this with Selene this morning and provided a link above, but just the same I'll post it here I think you had better read the fine print Selene Notice the red Christ is the unity of the church which is Mary Again the catechism disagrees with your statement, the Church is...

Rev 11:1-3 I was given a reed like a measuring rods and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court;t do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles.u They will trample on the holy cityv for 42 months.w 3 And I will...

I edited my post so perhaps you now understand it's in reply to Aspens comments

I think you had better read the fine print Selene Notice the red Christ is the unity of the church which is Mary Again the catechism disagrees with your statement, the Church is defined as the entire body of Christ. It's defined as Mary --->> a mystery Now read this and apply Mary as she the...

The two post I commented behind you after you referred to, and directed negative comments at the protestant faith. And I'm a bad person for posting dogma and the catechism behind them? This is starting to sound like the gay movement, it's ok to bash Christians "protestants" If your gay...

Regardless of what you believe I can clearly read, and If the church is truly based on Christ why do I read this. The church is Mary, and the high office is Peter, in all of this just where is the foundation laid, I don't see Jesus name anywhere do you? Mary is the church 829 "But while in...

Rev 11:1-3 Hears some numbers that would tend to indicate your futuristic fantasy is just that. Dome of the rock construction started 688 - 691 built by the Umayyad caliph Abd al-Malik from 688 to 691 I just did a bit of number crunching, I subtracted 1260 years from 1948 and found 688 AD then...

That's what I though, zero NT evidence to support your understanding of Romans 11:25, or should I say contradict the NT teachings you ignore. Romans 9:6-9 Gal 3:28 Romans 2:28-29 Matthew 3:9 I suppose that whats happens when people take there own desire and force it on scriptures or the...

You tell me Selene, I'm the one that had to drag the truth out of you in the first place.

824 United with Christ, the Church is sanctified by him; through him and with him she becomes sanctifying. "All the activities of the Church are directed, as toward their end, to the sanctification of men in Christ and the glorification of God."292 It is in the Church that "the fullness of the...

LOL aspen and the book includes winking smiles And your church makes it very clear that there is no salvation outside of it's membership period. I'll find some more if you continue in your denial 824 United with Christ, the Church is sanctified by him; through him and with him she becomes...

838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."322Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly...

Take it up with your big mouth protestant bashing buddy, I didn't post anything but the truth straight from your beloved catechism And he's doing the same

The Roman Catholic Church doesn't recognize any salvation other than imperfect outside of it's membership, why should protestants be expected to be any different And who started the division? and refuses to accept people as be fully saved outside of membership see 811 in your catechism...

There are distinct differences between Protestants and Catholics right down to how one is saved Now If the admin of this site wants to believe there the same or that there going to hug and make up that's his choice And it's impossible to address the catholic doctrine spreed by the few that...