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  1. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    "And [God] gave some to be apostles; and some to be, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ ..." "And God has set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that...
  2. Pilgrimer

    Is There a War on Christmas?

    Contrary to the popular theories haunting the internet, it's not Christians who have adopted pagan holidays, but pagans who have adopted Christian holidays, and twisted and distorted the religious aspects to try to make them acceptable to a secular society. But the truth is ... for all their...
  3. Pilgrimer

    It is 'Easter' again...

    Hello Mr. Cool. I realize your post was addressed to Mr. Edersoehn, but I would like to address it if I may? And let me say first that I am a New Testament historian, so I have worked out my own chronology of the Passion Week based on, first and foremost, the chronology of the Gospels, and...
  4. Pilgrimer

    It is 'Easter' again...

    Hello Mr. Cool. I realize your post was addressed to Mr. Edersoehn, but I would like to respond if I may? And let me say first that I am a New Testament historian, so I have worked out my own chronology of the Passion Week based on, first and foremost, the chronology of the Gospels, and...
  5. Pilgrimer

    Is There a War on Christmas?

    As a Christian apologist, I am not so much concerned with the attacks against Christmas from those outside the faith, that has been going on since the Gospel was first preached, and it will continue until the end of the world, but will be no more effective in silencing the witness of the Gospel...
  6. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    I agree, and I only engage in discussions on Christian forums with people who identify as Christian. I'm not interested in trying to convert unbelievers, but to arm my fellow Christians, the body of Christ whom I cherish, with the truth about the history of our faith and the history of our...
  7. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    But it behooves us to first determine whether or not we are in fact mixing our Christian faith with pagan superstitions and traditions. In Christ, Pilgrimer
  8. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    This thread is not about doctrine, it's about history. I have provided historical evidence dating back to New Testament times that proves Christians have from the beginning held December 25 as the date of Jesus' birth. I have also provided evidence why your video contained incorrect historical...
  9. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    Why on earth would I ignore all the documented testimony from countless eyewitnesses and instead simply believe you? You have not offered a fact or even a rational argument for rejecting the Christian faith and practice that has existed since the time of the Apostles. I believe the sky is blue...
  10. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    I addressed your main objection and pointed out that the popular arguments "against" Christmas derive from the very Jewish writings you claim to reject. You can't have it both ways, use the Talmuds and Mishnah to argue against Christmas and then toss them if they actually contradict those...
  11. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    My reading comprehension is normally rather good, but it appears to have failed me because I'm afraid I don't understand what your point is. In Christ, Pilgrimer
  12. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    The point is ... you have no proof to offer, else you would have done so in the very beginning. There is a world of difference between informed opinions on the Christian faith based on actual evidence, and subjective opinions about the Christian faith based on blind prejudice. Most of what is...
  13. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    For the third time, where is your proof? I understand that you are completely convinced that what you are saying is true. But saying it, even if you type it in all caps, in bold, in red letters, underscored, with lots of exclamation marks ... does not make it true. Why are you so adamantly...
  14. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    Christians since the New Testament times used the Julian calendar, which was established by Julius Caesar in B.C. 43 and is still used by some orthodox churches to this day. That calendar has not changed since it was instituted. Then in the 16th century, Christians adopted the Gregorian reform...
  15. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    As with the study of any ancient writings, credible historians are able to distinguish between the historical events recorded in those writings, and the religious views and opinions expressed about those events. The Astronomical Diaries of the Babylonians, for example, is a primary source for...
  16. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    I openly stated what my agenda is from the very beginning. I am a New Testament historian and a Christian apologist. So my agenda is to defend the truth of the history of the Christian faith. The challenge remains. In Christ, Pilgrimer
  17. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    Not to get too deep into the legalities of the Old Covenant, but after the priest who offered the incense had completed his ministry and left the Sanctuary, which ended the day's services, he paused at the top of the steps and said those verses as a blessing upon the people. This is the prayer...
  18. Pilgrimer

    Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

    All of Christendom since the time of the Apostles have celebrated his birth on December 25, so you're in good company. In Christ, Pilgrimer