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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Use the parable of the RM&Laz and you will have much more of a display of things in it, that portray the religious Jewish error in scripture, as well as the error of religious church-ianity that interprets it. One Clue for example: 1. The fire of God is Eternal (Heb. 12:39)**. The fire that His...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Is the parable of the ten virgins about literal virgins? My point is, a parable doesn't have to be true, as long as it is delivering a truth that is true.
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    I agree with your understanding about God's omniscience. However, I disagree as to who you are saying the two anointed ones were, that did come AFTER the appearance of John the Baptist and the first manifestation of Christ in the flesh. I perceive that you are reading Zech. chs. 3 and 4 from the...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    And my point was, in the parable of the RM&L, all of the issues that I pointed out are based on FICTION of what the Jews themselves believed. But, just because Jesus reiterated their beliefs back to them, that doesn't make what Jesus said about an after life to be factual and true...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    In my answer to @KUWN ,I was answering his request of "what my point was" about the parable of the RM&Lazaras. In my post #76, I informed him of the imposed errors of belief that the parable was introducing, of what goes on in the spiritual world after death. Unfortunately, in that...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    As well as being our Savior, Jesus was a prophet, being the last prophet. Heb. 1 1. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Actually there are a few issues that the story imposes upon the reader: 1. We assume that Jesus wouldn't fabricate a fictional story, therefore we unconsciously accept ALL of His words as being truth. 2. The Rich man makes requests to God while dead in his grave. 3. The rich man is tormented by...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    I think that the topic is well covered by @TribulationSigns in post #71, that the Rich man and Lazarus is a parable, of which is a semi-ficticious story meant to deliver a singular truth.
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    I find that you are extremely hard pressed to prove that the literal historic is the only thing that God's prophetic words shall deliver. Don't get me wrong, by all means history has its place in the prophetic being fulfilled, but God is a spirit who lives in eternity where there is with Him no...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    If I must use the word "literally", I will here. God's literal thoughts and literal ways of accomplishing things are not how WE literally think and how WE literally accomplish things. Isa. 55:8-9. God, who is a Spirit only (as once was Jesus), had no other option to speak to us corporately...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    If I must use the word "literally", I will here. God's literal thoughts and literal ways of accomplishing things are not how WE literally think and how WE literally accomplish things. Isa. 55:8-9. God, who is a Spirit only (as once was Jesus), had no other option to speak to us corporately...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    From my opening post #1: As a Born again Amillennial believer in Christ, I have always understood that God's prophetic words are mostly based upon His own Eternal Spiritual thoughts/language, and not so much that of our own human thoughts and how we understand the words of our own written...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    I can't wait to see what you will do with the story about the Rich man and Lazarus. Luke 16:20-31.
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    @3 Resurrections thank you for your reply. In regard to the deaths of those two high priests in 67/68 AD, which was 2 years prior to the temple in Jerusalem being destroyed by Titus 70AD., I have read the historical account by Flavius Josephus in "Wars" 4.5.2. Given the account of 10-12...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Seriously, by posting those scriptures here at this time, you have "opened a can of worms" for all versions of belief about the time of "a thousand years". As for me, I am an Ammillenial believer, and therefore I believe and promote that when John the Baptist and Jesus "finished their...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    If you know who the two witnesses are or shall be, do you have any comment to say about it?
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    If you do not now know who the Two Witnesses are, having an open mind about it is a wise suggestion. Do you agree that ever since John the Baptist and Jesus, we have been in "these last days"? Heb. 1:2
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    @TribulationSigns wrote: "So if you believe the Two Witnesses are two literal individuals, then let's establish that from the text. Show me from Revelation 11 itself, Zechariah 4, or the broader biblical context why the “two witnesses” must necessarily be two individual men." Reply from...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    I am very aware of the deep seated indoctrination that has overtaken almost all believers, by the preaching and teaching of church-ianity that the two witnesses are nothing more than converted mortal men chosen by God to preach doom and gloom to unrepentant people. Prior to John and Jesus, the...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    In both Zech. 14 and Rev. 11, there is no doubt about it that "the two anointed ones", aka. "the two witnesses" are indeed people, specifically John the Baptist and Jesus. The keyword to focus on is the word "anointed", which is to say for anyone who does have the permanent indwelling of God's...