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  1. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    I didn't give speculation. I gave the Word.
  2. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    I agree. Because He was the Word and not the Father. The Life of the Word was God and became our Father by the Word. But the Word was just that. The Word manifested by God to create us to be the Real Sons. So this meant that we are more than the Word. We are the Real Son or Child or Jesus...
  3. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    I agree. And this is only a Reality in Jesus. As in Jesus the Word of the Birth is given. Prior their was no such word and thus prior their existed no True Son of God. As only a Son really Born of the Father can be a True Son. So only we can be that. Jesus was the Word of God. Spoken and...
  4. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    This is called a "divided" love. Because the most will go to Jesus for dying for you sins. God "His Father" sending him to do the bad part will not earn much devotion here. And then there is the "holy spirit" too. Guiding you etc. But on the other hand: When God your Daddy redeemed you by...
  5. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    God said many times He is One. If you have 3 Gods you are divided in your Love and will never arrive at Loving your Father with your whole heart soul and mind. Because most of your Love will go to Jesus that died for you and the rest will go to the Holy Spirit that is guiding you. But when...
  6. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    When we realize that the "Holy Spirit" is actually Our Father teaching His Child we can come more into the Love of our Father and us being His Child. Where we should Love Him with all our heart soul and mind. Being divided in your Love is just that. And the consequences is not arriving at...
  7. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    The essence of Jesus or the Life of Jesus or the soul of Jesus was God our Father. John 14 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus...
  8. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    Actually we are not into "facts" here. We are into Revelation. Because in Revelation we grow. You are to "prove" all things. Thess. 5 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. This mean that you have to accept what I said and see if it is "good" or not. When God Reveal it you...
  9. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    But this is more about Spiritual Revelation. Because in this we grow further. When you take it seriously of course. If not you just stagnate where you are.
  10. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    God is the Creator of life on planet earth. And in that He gave us exact meaning to what He mean with these concepts. A Son of God can only be Someone that are born of Him and His Wife. Only Parents can give birth to Children. But by the absence of the Wife God used His Gifts. This...
  11. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    The Life of the Word was God that became our Father. John 14 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long...
  12. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    Ok. Let us talk about it. God is the Creator. And He creates by The Word He speaks. Genesis 1 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the...
  13. Johan

    The Real Jesus

    God is our Father. And our Creator. He creates by His Word. We are created by the Word of Jesus to be the Child or the Son. If Jesus is the Word then who is the Real Son?