Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    No. Do you mean historical accuracy? I have no theological frame work. I just read what is in Scripture. Is your typology not just human theology? Where in Scripture does it admonish people to view all Scripture as symbols? Prophecy is supposed to be about future events. There is a...
  2. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Yet it still does not fulfill Zechariah 14:16 "And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles." Peter told us Jesus was the...
  3. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    "He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of...
  4. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Acts 2:30-36 is not the fulfillment of Zechariah 14.
  5. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    None of your so called metaphor happened in the first century. The book has metaphor. The book has literal events. You toss out the literal events as if they will not prophetically happen. You are essentially saying nothing is prophecied in Revelation, but it was a look back at the first...
  6. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Built? Was the earth built? Is the church being built in heaven or on earth? The New Jerusalem is a physical city that comes down from heaven, because that is what John wrote. No metaphor here: "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven." John did not...
  7. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    My point is that the New Jerusalem has not been built yet. It is going to happen in our future. It did not happen in the first century.
  8. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    This prophecy has not been fulfilled yet. How can I show you proof in first century writings that it has been fulfilled? You are the one claiming it has been fulfilled. I asked how is that working out for all the leaders today. Do they recognize and send a yearly delegation to Jesus even in...
  9. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    So you deny heavenly Jerusalem is physical, and it can come to earth as a physical city? I have never once said about Revelation 21 that it has physically come to earth in the first century. That does not mean it is not a physical place. Revelation 21takes place after this current physical...
  10. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    So the Jerusalem of David was not the same Jerusalem as the one when Jesus lived? What is your point?
  11. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    No. The Bride dwells in the New Jerusalem. Do you think Washington DC is a literal city or the bride of Christ because saved people live in it? If John had said I see Washington DC as the bride, the Lamb's wife would you think it just a spiritual term, and not a literal place? Jesus is not a...
  12. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Because Jesus died physically on a literal cross. Why did the NT not reinterpret that prophecy, into some spiritual meaning like you do for the physical reign of Jesus? I do not see the NT reinterpreting Jerusalem nor the throne of David. That would be a personal human interpretation of...
  13. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    How is that working out for current world Presidents? Are they all obedient, and sending a yearly delegation to Jerusalem? Was the Cross merely a spiritual story, and not literal either? How can one be physical, but the other not physical?
  14. Timtofly

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    So you believe Jesus is currently sitting on the throne of David in Jerusalem? Or is that just spiritual jargon for whatever you want to make up?
  15. Timtofly

    Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

    Because you keep saying that they can be overcome both ways. They cannot, if they are overcomers. An overcomer is one both spiritually and physically, no? The verse in Revelation 13 does not say they are overcomers, but that Satan is the overcomer. Then you complain that those overcome...
  16. Timtofly

    Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

    Revelation 20 is not symbolic of anything. Revelation 20 contains the literal actual events. Revelation 20 does not need an explanation. The explanation by the angel is still unclear and obscure. Daniel was not meant to be understood, until years after the facts have already happened...
  17. Timtofly

    Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

    The 4 beast in Daniel 7 represents Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greece , and Rome. But the 7 headed beast is not just those 4 kingdoms, which by the way no longer exist, nor will ever exist again. Those 10 horns in Daniel 7 are no longer in existence. The ten horns in Revelation 17, have...
  18. Timtofly

    Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

    The only problem is you make Daniel out to be the clear picture, when Paul said the OT was obscure. And you make Revelation out to be an obscure view, when Revelation is a clearer view. Daniel missed all the intricate details that John covers. So you use Daniel to skip over the millennium...
  19. Timtofly

    Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

    You seem to want to have a general pat over all interpretation of a word. Do you not see a problem with that way of interpretation? We were referencing a verse in Revelation, not 1 Corinthians. The English language does not work that way when it comes to most types of writing. The...