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I would say that the warning does not refer precisely to the 7 plagues represented by the bowl judgments. It is a general warning that if someone does not take the book seriously, that person will suffer the same judgment that will fall upon those the book is warning are not living properly...

Paul is saying that Christians in his time should reject the current claim that Jesus has already come back and has already begun to establish his Kingdom on earth. In our day we've had cults claim the same thing, that their movement is in process of establishing God's Kingdom on earth. Of...

You have not made any argument at all against Rev 14.14 being the Postrib Coming of Christ! You want me to take your word for it? You want to base your claims to Scriptural authority on no Scriptural proof at all, on pure assertions by you? You see, I think you read Revelation like a chronology...

No, you're obscuring the point, consciously or unconsciously. I said that Paul proves that Christ has not come yet, with his Kingdom, because the Man of Sin has not yet appeared. Paul is saying, explicitly, that the very purpose of Christ's Coming is to destroy the Antichrist. Therefore...

This, for me, is word confusion. Yes, Christ comes after the Tribulation of the present age, which is defined by Jesus as Jewish Punishment and suffering for Christians. But he comes to *end the Tribulation.* This is all originating from Dan 7, where the Son of Man comes to end the suffering of...

This is so typical of those with an agenda to produce a new "prophecy map." I hope you're not trying to do that? You take symbolic language and then try to over-literalize it until it fits your own plan. "Sitting on a cloud" is symbolic language, brother! Revelation is literally strewn with...

No, Paul said that before anyone can say Christ has come to earth, the Antichrist must 1st be revealed. And he must also be destroyed, since Christ's Coming is for that very purpose, to *destroy the Antichrist* in order to set up his Kingdom on earth.

Rev 14.14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. Mat 24.38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the...

I can't yet determine whether you're deliberately being obtuse or I'm just not being clear enough? My argument was not that the gathering of Christians takes place *after* Christ's Coming, but rather, *at* Christ's Coming. That is what I referred to with respect to Dan 7 and 2 Thes 2. Christ...

Not a problem. You are ignoring the explicit connection Paul makes, in 2 Thes 2, between the *revelation* of the Antichrist and the *destruction* of the Antichrist. Paul is saying that *both* must take place at the Coming of Christ. Otherwise, Christ cannot be considered to have come yet.

If that's all you're saying, we agree. The Antichrist is revealed, but is also *destroyed* at the Coming of Christ. You skip over the "destroyed" part! As I told you, they are different stories. The analogy of the Flood and Sodom's destruction are being confused with Christ's Coming by you...

A very bold statement towards Iran, and I would agree with the sentiment, though perhaps not with all of the details and sequence of events. I really don't know. But I agree that Iran is playing a Satanic role right now, in hating Israel and in trying to wipe it off the map. Iran is trying to...

It might be like a current American president, who happens to be descended from George Washington, calling upon the tradition of his forefather to advance his political/spiritual cause. "Father," in this sense, could refer either to a prominent member of the ethnicity or to an ancient relative...

The creedal statement "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit" is fully orthodox and does not have reference to "3 gods." You are terribly mistaken! Christians are not and never have been polytheists or tri-theists, except among a heretical fringe. Sounds like you're the one who...

Yes, but as is the case with all unbelievers they have the opportunity to repent and accept Christ for the forgiveness of their sin. I agree that many Jews who presently are in unbelief will repent at the coming of Christ. But I believe they will constitute the Christian nation of Israel in the...

God is the source of life. In giving us His live in perpetuity we indeed have been given Eternal Life and so have Eternal Life. The real question is, Have we really paid the price to receive this gift? It does cost something to prove you've accepted full responsibility for your decision. But...

I was going to "like" your post, GH, except there was this bit, indicating Christians worshiped "3 gods!" I can't accept that Christians were ever polytheists--the Hebrews in the OT Bible had been condemned for having more than one God, and Christians all knew that. There have always been...

Redfan, I needed rest so bad that I retired early! ;) Please don't think I lack compassion--rest as often as you possibly can (without, of course, being lazy). Just don't get in a legalistic bondage about what day you work on or what schedule you choose to work by. Choose based on what you...

Re-read what I wrote, because I wasn't completely finished editing. But I would disagree with you that I was ignoring the "rest" aspect. What you're ignoring is the fact that you're quoting a passage that emphasizes "the day that was being required to rest on," and using that to prove we need...

Bob, please notice how the Sabbath ritual came into existence. It certainly did not exist prior to the Law, indicating God had no concern to encourage his saints prior to that time to take one day per week out of necessity with respect to their health and religion. Israel were tested in coming...