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    Two White Horses

    Didnt Polycarp keep the Saturday Sabbath as well?
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    Two White Horses

    (Red_Letters88;58519) Um...He was responding to me 1 of 3...about a link I posted Doh!Sorry.
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    Two White Horses

    (kriss;58504) This why I give Irenaeus credit as a second wittness more than other church writters and because I believe the Word to be in line with his writtings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna Polycarp was Bishop of Smyrna (today known as...
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    Two White Horses

    (tomwebster;58500) I dissagree with everything I have read. Course, I have not read everything he has written. He is a rapture believer. That's enough for me. Actually no I'm not. I have reached no conclusions as to what or when the events of 1 Thes 4 will be. I may have referred to these...
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    (kriss;58469) Right 1 of 3 we should come up with your Nephew talk about gymnastics and coming up with your own doctrine. And what was your reason ? oh yeah what his name means Again going personal, when clearly defeated.My nephew is a non issue here. but just to clarify. I did not conclude...
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    Two White Horses

    Red,You can see the gymnastics required to make their doctrine work.I'll go with the plainly declared Word of God, thank you.The Son of perdition has father's, as only a man can (per Daniel) and his spiritual father is Satan, the dragon who is clearly defined in as a separate person twice in...
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    Two White Horses

    Jag, On foundational issues my doctrine is very orthodox. On eschatological issues there is much disagreement today, but your doctrine that the AC is not a man is the unorthodox one here.Most that I have any respect for concerning foundational doctrines hold that the AC will be a man.No, Im not...
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    Two White Horses

    (kriss;58391) Red heres scripture to prove what we saidRev11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.This is the two wittness's he killsRev 13:18 Here is wisdom...
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    Two White Horses

    (tomwebster;58390) 1 of 3 Martyrs,Clearly we have a different understanding of Scripture, so be it! We (you and I) do not need to continue this topic. We will have to agree to dissagree, or something like that. If I remember correctly, there was something on the board here we did agree on...
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    Two White Horses

    Oy!Scripture doesnt need that kind of spinning.When it is plainly stated we should leave it that way.Well I'm off to Sabbath.Shabat Shalom!Daniel
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    Two White Horses

    (tomwebster;58378) Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the...
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    Two White Horses

    Tom,Thats tapdancin.You hurdled right over the verse again. And the matter of my nephew is a non issue. Even before I knew about him I believed this. I should add that the view that Satan is the AC is the unorthodox one here. (maybe not on this site, but in general)And no, I will never come...
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    Two White Horses

    Kriss,And you do your usual thing.Personal attacks when you are clearly proven wrong with scripture.And what I can expect in the future?Locking the thread when you are so defeated.I learned long ago, in the schoolyard. When someone goes personal, and leaves off the topic?I can...
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    Two White Horses

    Sorry Tom,Not yet,If the Daniel verses are referring to the willful king, the antichrist and his ancestry then how can it be satan?It cannot. Satan has no fatherS.Pural of father.And in the original greek for "man" of sin.G444ἄνθρωποςanthrōposanth'-ro-posFrom G435 and ὤψ ōps (the...
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    (1 of 3 Martyrs;58357) Tom you skipped right over Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not...
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    Two White Horses

    Tom you skipped right over Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold...
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    Two White Horses

    (thesuperjag;58350) If I want to take it literally... Satan father is God.If I want to take it spiritually, Satan has no father since he is a angel. No human father.Satan is the main villain and is the master deceiver. Yes I "want" to take it literally. Since there is no reason not to.And the...
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    Two White Horses

    This verse is probably the most powerful proof that you are wrong, jag.Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom...
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    Two White Horses

    SJ,Then who is the Father of Perdition?Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the...
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    Two White Horses

    After 1000 years, the Satanic trinity is reunited in the Lake of Fire.Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. The AntiChrist, the Beast, the MAN of...